If Jesus is only a form of God, then why are Hindus wrong for worshipping many forms of God? - Page 3

cajunhillbilly · #31 May 11, '12, 5:11 am

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Originally Posted by siamusnomore

In the scriptures, Mary at one point is said to have been with child. Great with child even.

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Luke 2:5

To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

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Now,,,this is something that I want someone to comment on. It is Revelation 12:2.

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Revelation 12:2
And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
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To me, this seems to be implying that Mary was born stained with original sin just like the rest of us. I've heard things for sometime that Mary was born without sin. That cannot be true. Needed to accept salvation just like the rest of us.

Yes. That is what I believe.

If Mary was the kind of girl and woman that I believe she was, then she accepted salvation as soon as she could. The holy spirit was living inside of Mary in spades. That is a given, but was she forced into becoming born again?

Most likely not.

Mary's faith was unparalleled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN70R-3ao0U

This is not a thread about Mary. There are threads about Mary elsewhere in the forums. This is about comparing Hinduism to Christianity.

rinnie · #32 May 11, '12, 6:38 am

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Originally Posted by Ben Sinner

Everytime I get in a debate with a Hindu, they will throw the "Jesus was a human form of God. So why is it bad to pray to Shiva, Krishna, etc.??"

I've never really been able to give a good answer to this question

Can anybody come up with a good answer for this?

You have to go back to the true meaning of the Trinity.

You can't look at Jesus in the human form, You have to understand Jesus is ONE GOD.

We do not worship MANY gods we worship ONE GOD. Jesus is fully God Fully Man. Jesus is ONE in being WITH the Father.

When you look at the 3 person in the Trinity you are not seeing One without the other. God is God. ONE GOD.

The Father Son and Holy Spirit are not 3 Gods in 3 persons. The Father Son and Holy Spirit is 3 person in ONE GOD.

Not one is less or more then the other. All are fully equal, fully God.

When we worship the Father we cannot omit the Son, when we worship the Holy Spirit we cannot omit the Father and Son, etc.

Yes Jesus was GOd made Man human and Divine. You must remember that.

Pitcharan · #33 May 11, '12, 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by Ben Sinner

Everytime I get in a debate with a Hindu, they will throw the "Jesus was a human form of God. So why is it bad to pray to Shiva, Krishna, etc.??"

I've never really been able to give a good answer to this question

Can anybody come up with a good answer for this?

I don't understand why you had to debate with a Hindu. They have their beliefs and we have ours. Where is the scope for debate?

rinnie · #34 May 11, '12, 9:18 am

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Originally Posted by Pitcharan

I don't understand why you had to debate with a Hindu. They have their beliefs and we have ours. Where is the scope for debate?

The Church urges its sons and daughters to enter with prudence and charity into discussions and colaboration with members of other religions.

We as Christians are taught while witnessing our own faith and acknowledge preserve and encourage the spiritual and moral truths found among non-Christians together with their social life and culture.

How can we ever witness our own faith and to bring others to Christ if we refuse to spead the good news to them.

Pitcharan · #35 May 11, '12, 9:56 am

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Originally Posted by rinnie

..How can we ever witness our own faith and to bring others to Christ if we refuse to spread the good news to them.

Spreading the Good News is possible without debating each others' beliefs.

perro sarnoso · #36 May 13, '12, 7:34 am

[quote=Ben Sinner;9270739]Everytime I get in a debate with a Hindu, they will throw the "Jesus was a human form of God. So why is it bad to pray to Shiva, Krishna, etc.??"

I've never really been able to give a good answer to this question

Can anybody come up with a good answer for this?[/QUO VADIS]

Because Jesus is not a form of God!!

Jesus Christ is God Incarnate. He is the Second Person of the Most Holy Trinity. True God and True Man.

Stick to your guns Ben, and keep it simple. Jesus Christ is the Word of God made flesh. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God the Father; God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. Three distinct persons, one God. Jesus Christ is "one in being with the Father". The Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father and the Son.

God's essence and existence coincide.

1voice · #37 May 13, '12, 4:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Ben Sinner

Everytime I get in a debate with a Hindu, they will throw the "Jesus was a human form of God. So why is it bad to pray to Shiva, Krishna, etc.??"

I've never really been able to give a good answer to this question

Can anybody come up with a good answer for this?

The Bible clearly states that there are (false) gods
... and there is a warning...
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

... but Jesus stated clearly and simply that he alone is the way, the truth and the life.
Isaiah 45:5
I am the Lord, and there is no other, besides me there is no God.

When Jesus ministered on the Earth he clarified the fact that there are only (exclusively) three persons in the Godhead. He described their function and their relationship to one another.
He never mentioned Shiva or any other of the millions of Hindu gods as being part of the one true Godhead.
Those Hindu "gods" are, in fact,demons. They are part of the fallen angels that rebelled against God along with satan. They are deceiving spirits. They have devised a false religion. Tell your friends to try this... pray (specifically) in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth who died for sin and the salvation of man (asking him to reveal himself and the truth) and see, for themselves, what God's response is.

Jesus clearly demonstrated how to pray ... and the one to whom we should direct prayer. He revealed who God is and who God is not. He called those that worshipped other gods heathens and said that praying to other gods was vain repetition.

siamusnomore · #38 May 15, '12, 8:30 am

millions of Hindu gods?

Isn't that exaggerating a bit?

rinnie · #39 May 15, '12, 10:31 am

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Originally Posted by Pitcharan

Spreading the Good News is possible without debating each others' beliefs.

How? Debating is showing where we differ in views. How can you spread the good news without showing where we differ in faith?

You can debate in a kind and loving way.

1voice · #40 May 15, '12, 6:17 pm

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Originally Posted by siamusnomore

millions of Hindu gods?

Isn't that exaggerating a bit?

No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hindu_deities

siamusnomore · #41 May 16, '12, 2:50 am

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Originally Posted by 1voice

No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hindu_deities

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Every separate thing has a god attributed to it?

1voice · #42 May 16, '12, 8:13 am

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Originally Posted by siamusnomore

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Every separate thing has a god attributed to it?

Pretty much.

InJesusItrust · #43 May 17, '12, 12:18 am

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Originally Posted by 1voice

Tell your friends to try this... pray (specifically) in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth who died for sin and the salvation of man (asking him to reveal himself and the truth) and see, for themselves, what God's response is.

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This is a good recommendation. None of the other gods have a courtesy of revealing themselves. For the longest time I was an atheist because I bought the lie that God does not care about religion. The Triune God answered my prayers when I tried seeking Him.