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Old Jun 29, '12, 6:12 pm
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I am looking for alternate all-natural healing techniques and have been learning about EFT, or Emotional Freedom Technique. This is tapping on the meridian points while repeating a reminder phrase to try to get rid of phobias, illnesses, fears, etc. through the subconscious mind with the premise that given the chance the body will hear itself. I need to know if this fits into the New Age category of healing rechniques.

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Hello!!! And welcome to the forums.

I can't say for sure whether or not it is new age, but I did come across this:

http://www.skepdic.com/eft.html

You might want to contact Sharon Lee Gigante or Sue Brinkman for more info. Just put their names in a search engine and you should find their websites with contact info. Also, Sue Brinkman is a regular guest on Johnette Benkovic's EWTN radio show 'Women of Grace" where you can call in and ask questions. I think it airs at 11:00 am EST. If it's not broadcast locally, you can stream it from the web.
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I found this old thread that may help
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=428018
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Thank you so much. Both of these were very helpful. It seems that Skepdic is skeptical of all acupuncture or of anything non-traditional in the healing field. Maybe EFT, if it is helpful for you, is OK in its purest form, but the problem lies in practitioners who are also trained in other mystical healing techniques who blend everything together. I have one course I picked up online that clearly blends it with other techniques that I will toss into the garbage right now. I guess the jury is still out on whether EFT in its purest forms goes against the teachings of the Catholic Church. I would still appreciate any other input from anyone on this.

I am thinking of maybe using the techniques but like one person said on the thread of changing some of the wording and asking for God's healing instead of ourselves or the universe, etc.
May God bless us and give us all the gift of discernment in matters such as these. I am so afraid of dabbling unknowingly in this, as I have clearly done in the past. I had purchased a lot of Louise Hay's stuff, but tossed it after one of her audio tapes of affirmations said something to the effect of us having both male and female sexuality and to accept both orientations within ourselves, and the fact that we choose our parents before we are born, according to what we still need to learn or resolve from our previous life. (Really!) It's too bad, because there were some good and helpful things that she said. That is the trap, and how we can get insidiously lured into this New Age stuff. This is motivating me into going through all my books and seeing what healing modalities they are using. A friend suggested I receive the sacrament of the sick, or go to a healing Mass. I may look into that. Also, re: psychologists, they are certainly not immune to giving you non-Catholic advice and techniques. (e.g. masturbation for anxiety or insomnia.) I have seen a few psychologists and counselors in the past for anxiety. It is possible to find a Catholic one, though.

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When you take your finger and firmly massage a silver dollar-sized circle, about 1.5", going around one and one-half times, and do this perhaps a dozen times on any part of the body, it lowers one's blood pressure. This can be done on virtually all mammals. This should not be done by anyone with clotting risk. My point is simply that this is not "New Age" trick but a function of the circulatory system, triggering the vaso-vagal response. When one is choked, for example, the body senses a change in homeostatic pressure and drops blood pressure to save one's life. This mini-circulatory change, cutting of the blood in a discreet circle through massage, has a diffuse but nonetheless cumulative effect that tricks the body into dropping blood pressure by the vaso-vagal effect. EMT's may use it. New Agers may use it. IF one were to have this presented as "New Age" it would still be merely a scientific reality. Skepticism should engage, not at the effect, but at any airy fairy New Age explanation for the effect. Thanks, God. Great system. So we have to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

A neurological parallel is seen in the so-called meridian system used in accupressure and accupuncture. EFT, the Emotional Freedom Technique, is a kind of accupressure. It may be using a non-neurological system, like capillary pressure, that has a feedback loop to the neurological system. The EFT effect is likely from a circulatory cleansing at the capillary level, the backwaters where arteries turn into veins, pumping to flushing. Strong emotions trigger chemicals, and those chemicals can create a kind of synaptic residue hanging out around nerve endings ready to trigger with any stressor, whether pleasure or pain. The problem is if the chemical residue is from past negative events.

Even worse is chemical residue from constant self-generated negative thoughts. So now instead of the body moderately reacting to a stressor in the present moment, a whole cascade is triggered as those "raw nerves" are easily drawn in to the response and pile on. It's like being depressed about some one thing, but having that trigger becoming more depressed about every rotten thing that ever happened. It's too much to handle and blocks adapting and overcoming the real-time situation. Focusing on right now unites us with the divine eternal. Christ counsels us to subsist in faith, hope and charity, not doubt, fear and anger that blocks actualizing divine potential. Stop worrying and pray. But sometimes we don't, and that leaves synaptic trash.

The spoken phrases are not actually affirmations and are not self-hypnosis. The EFT phrases are to tune, to mildly activate, the chemical frequency, if I may say, of that trash synaptic residue of the specific emotion one is trying to purge. Similarly, massage therapists urge drinking plenty of water before therapy, as toxins are released that can trigger odd, powerful emotional responses. It is not uncommon for a new client to feel depressed or weepy after a first massage as the plethora of poorly-detoxified synaptic firing residue hits the system all at once.

Laying on of hands is good science. Good science is good religion. Laying on of hands is touch with divinely-mediated intent. "I sing the body electric." Our lovely cells, wildly complex, have every chemical function mediated by a plus or minus charge, pH, hydrogen power. Our cell functions switch on and off like little acid and alkaline battery-powered switches! Praise God, Who is glorified in His creation! Lord, this is a beautiful thing. Truth is beauty. Science is religion. No New Age or atheist propaganda predates God's revelation of these things.

Touching with intent, with divinely-granted power and authority, passes that harmonized electrical field to another, and will effect a re-set of deranged cellular switching systems. It's like reverting to God's factory settings. Complemented with anointing with oil, one gets the bonus of a transdermal application of EFA's, Essential Fatty Acids. EFA's can be absorbed through the skin! God said it millennia ago! That feeds the nerve cells and myelin sheath among other things. So before medications were administered trandermally, God was directing us to anoint with oil, particularly useful in preparing a ruler for the tough job ahead by dumping oil on the head to feed the lipo-protein-craving, fat-rich brain. Anointing is great for bypassing sick G.I. tracts, just feed the body through the skin. Reiki and other New Age disciplines are not consonant with Catholicism as there is a fuzzy, higher-but-not-highest-power-type intent that marginalizes our Creator.

Jesus told us we would do greater miracles than He Himself. Good science is good religion. That's all the medical break-throughs resulting from Judeo-Christian science rooted and grounded in back-engineering a cogent Creator. But monotheism was the fundament for all peoples; and we may surely honor God in using the meridian system of those who reveal God through observing His creation, along the lines mentioned by St. Paul. Miracles are supernatural or preternatural, the former divine, the latter of the angelic or natural realm. Preternatural can include fallen angels, false miracles meant to deceive in their intent or effect. Reiki and other New Age techniques are stagnating in that preternatural or natural realm by not honoring our Creator. No likey.

The EFT website has a lengthy download of their background and system which seems more or less theologically neutral. EFT inventor Gary Craig doesn't know why EFT works and really doesn't care. Way in the middle of the PDF download is the actual chart of EFT points to be tapped. This tapping, by the way, has been noted to work on another person without touching the subject. This is because the subject will throw their attention to and raise the circulation of those meridian points by sympathetic observation, just as when we feel the pain in the same place when we see another get hurt.

EFT done without touching the subject is a wonderful way of treating those who are victims of physical abuse who filter all touch as malevolent; and for treating children for whom touching would not be appropriate; and for those who may be in the throes of an overpowering emotional cascade that they can't of themselves stop long enough to follow the EFT protocol. But best of all, EFT can be done on one's self with the tuning phrases cobbled up by one's self so there is no need to risk any exposure to garbage. To avoid ANY possibility of an overlay of some philosophy antithetical to Catholicism, just download only the chart at the official EFT website. One of the points is the "mea culpa" area on the upper chest. Catholics thought of EFT first...

P.S. Beware of "EFT" in the URL/web address. This is Gary Craig's official website:

http://www.emofree.com/
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http://www.tapyourpower.net/files/Be...f_Rouleaux.pdf
Here's an objective test showing amelioration of rouleaux, hemoglobin clumping, with pics of before and after use of the EFT/Emotional Freedom Technique captured by a dark field microscope using real-time blood smears.

"FREEDOM!" is one more guaranteed death in the proposed IRS-enforced, anti-choice, bureaucrat-committee-of-twelve-death-paneled, rationed for those over twelve and under fifty-six cash shift to the AMA with slush funds for cronies. What's not to hate? This system is so politically bereft the Not-Party-of-Lincoln is sparing cronies with waivers from this medical mediocri-topia The croney system KKK elitists perfected in the deep South, complete with Catholic hating, has risen again. Or maybe it's just a dead cat bounce.

The higher the patient's education level, the more open to and patronizing of alternative medicine. The AMA can't afford to have that back pain relieved by accupuncture...And they gotta keep pushing to have vitamins available by prescription-only so Dr. God/dess can pay for the Barbados vacations. The AMA-ites are bleeding revenue because patients are choosing alternative medicine. So to pay off the AMA for embracing Partial Birth Abortion like good little docs, we the people are slated to be tax-forced into dumping money on Sotomayor's AMA cronies: those haters of chiropractors (DC's sued to stop AMA persecution and won); osteopaths; nurse-specialists; midwives (the lack of which is why America's live births rank so low); and nutritionists pestered by an AMA that is everlastingly lobbying to have vitamins available by prescription-only.

This is the same-old-same-old corrupt AMA that In-Justice "Refuse-to-Recuse" Sotomayor--who "loves" women but doesn't love women--bullied into declaring Partial Birth Abortion a "therapeutic" abortion technique. Partial Birth Abortion used to be honestly defined by the AMA for what it is--an inherently unsafe tissue harvesting technique (besides killing the baby of course) that always endangers the life of the pregnant woman. It is always dangerous to spin that baby around in the womb to force a breech birth. Partial Birth Abortion/PBA always risks womb perforation and mom's guts on the table. C'mon. Wake up.

Lord, let these idols collapse under their own weight and free us to pursue science, the fullness of Your creation, and grant us miracles greater than Christ's as He Himself promised; all for YOUR honor and glory. Thanks. AMEN
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Wow! Thanks so much for all this valuable info! You are so knowledgeable - you must be a practitioner or at least in the healing field in some way.. I will not toss out all of my materials now that I have read this. What a relief! Maybe as long as I keep it completely pure it will be ok.

God bless you for taking the time to write this out. This is getting really big and I'm sure a lot of other people will be wondering the same thing.
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When you take your finger and firmly massage a silver dollar-sized circle, about 1.5", going around one and one-half times, and do this perhaps a dozen times on any part of the body, it lowers one's blood pressure. This can be done on virtually all mammals. This should not be done by anyone with clotting risk. My point is simply that this is not "New Age" trick but a function of the circulatory system, triggering the vaso-vagal response. When one is choked, for example, the body senses a change in homeostatic pressure and drops blood pressure to save one's life. This mini-circulatory change, cutting of the blood in a discreet circle through massage, has a diffuse but nonetheless cumulative effect that tricks the body into dropping blood pressure by the vaso-vagal effect. EMT's may use it. New Agers may use it. IF one were to have this presented as "New Age" it would still be merely a scientific reality. Skepticism should engage, not at the effect, but at any airy fairy New Age explanation for the effect. Thanks, God. Great system. So we have to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

A neurological parallel is seen in the so-called meridian system used in accupressure and accupuncture. EFT, the Emotional Freedom Technique, is a kind of accupressure. It may be using a non-neurological system, like capillary pressure, that has a feedback loop to the neurological system. The EFT effect is likely from a circulatory cleansing at the capillary level, the backwaters where arteries turn into veins, pumping to flushing. Strong emotions trigger chemicals, and those chemicals can create a kind of synaptic residue hanging out around nerve endings ready to trigger with any stressor, whether pleasure or pain. The problem is if the chemical residue is from past negative events.

Even worse is chemical residue from constant self-generated negative thoughts. So now instead of the body moderately reacting to a stressor in the present moment, a whole cascade is triggered as those "raw nerves" are easily drawn in to the response and pile on. It's like being depressed about some one thing, but having that trigger becoming more depressed about every rotten thing that ever happened. It's too much to handle and blocks adapting and overcoming the real-time situation. Focusing on right now unites us with the divine eternal. Christ counsels us to subsist in faith, hope and charity, not doubt, fear and anger that blocks actualizing divine potential. Stop worrying and pray. But sometimes we don't, and that leaves synaptic trash.

The spoken phrases are not actually affirmations and are not self-hypnosis. The EFT phrases are to tune, to mildly activate, the chemical frequency, if I may say, of that trash synaptic residue of the specific emotion one is trying to purge. Similarly, massage therapists urge drinking plenty of water before therapy, as toxins are released that can trigger odd, powerful emotional responses. It is not uncommon for a new client to feel depressed or weepy after a first massage as the plethora of poorly-detoxified synaptic firing residue hits the system all at once.

Laying on of hands is good science. Good science is good religion. Laying on of hands is touch with divinely-mediated intent. "I sing the body electric." Our lovely cells, wildly complex, have every chemical function mediated by a plus or minus charge, pH, hydrogen power. Our cell functions switch on and off like little acid and alkaline battery-powered switches! Praise God, Who is glorified in His creation! Lord, this is a beautiful thing. Truth is beauty. Science is religion. No New Age or atheist propaganda predates God's revelation of these things.

Touching with intent, with divinely-granted power and authority, passes that harmonized electrical field to another, and will effect a re-set of deranged cellular switching systems. It's like reverting to God's factory settings. Complemented with anointing with oil, one gets the bonus of a transdermal application of EFA's, Essential Fatty Acids. EFA's can be absorbed through the skin! God said it millennia ago! That feeds the nerve cells and myelin sheath among other things. So before medications were administered trandermally, God was directing us to anoint with oil, particularly useful in preparing a ruler for the tough job ahead by dumping oil on the head to feed the lipo-protein-craving, fat-rich brain. Anointing is great for bypassing sick G.I. tracts, just feed the body through the skin. Reiki and other New Age disciplines are not consonant with Catholicism as there is a fuzzy, higher-but-not-highest-power-type intent that marginalizes our Creator.

Jesus told us we would do greater miracles than He Himself. Good science is good religion. That's all the medical break-throughs resulting from Judeo-Christian science rooted and grounded in back-engineering a cogent Creator. But monotheism was the fundament for all peoples; and we may surely honor God in using the meridian system of those who reveal God through observing His creation, along the lines mentioned by St. Paul. Miracles are supernatural or preternatural, the former divine, the latter of the angelic or natural realm. Preternatural can include fallen angels, false miracles meant to deceive in their intent or effect. Reiki and other New Age techniques are stagnating in that preternatural or natural realm by not honoring our Creator. No likey.

The EFT website has a lengthy download of their background and system which seems more or less theologically neutral. EFT inventor Gary Craig doesn't know why EFT works and really doesn't care. Way in the middle of the PDF download is the actual chart of EFT points to be tapped. This tapping, by the way, has been noted to work on another person without touching the subject. This is because the subject will throw their attention to and raise the circulation of those meridian points by sympathetic observation, just as when we feel the pain in the same place when we see another get hurt.

EFT done without touching the subject is a wonderful way of treating those who are victims of physical abuse who filter all touch as malevolent; and for treating children for whom touching would not be appropriate; and for those who may be in the throes of an overpowering emotional cascade that they can't of themselves stop long enough to follow the EFT protocol. But best of all, EFT can be done on one's self with the tuning phrases cobbled up by one's self so there is no need to risk any exposure to garbage. To avoid ANY possibility of an overlay of some philosophy antithetical to Catholicism, just download only the chart at the official EFT website. One of the points is the "mea culpa" area on the upper chest. Catholics thought of EFT first...

P.S. Beware of "EFT" in the URL/web address. This is Gary Craig's official website:

http://www.emofree.com/
Not to be critical here, but most of what you said here is not found in a medical text as far as I know. It does sound a bit like Pseudoscience.

As for the OP's question, the problem with "New Age" or other problematic techniques is that they try to idolize something other than God our father. Some techniques deal with giving the impression that we control our health or others deal with ideas such as the Universe, some unknown force etc. In the case of us controlling our health, it idolizes oneself equaling it to God.

So whatever you do, always keep God at the center of all things. Know and trust in him to give you healing through whichever method you might use.

It is also good to ask a doctor or consult some statistics about the success of these methods. You don't want to put your time and money to something that might not be of use and might delay you from getting actual medical treatment.
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"OurBeloved", you have a much nicer way of saying what I was thinking.
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I was browsing the forums, and noticed several threads on EFT. In several of them a link the link to a Vatican document on the New Age, entitled "Jesus Christ: The Bearer of the Water of Life" is posted.

The link:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/po...ew-age_en.html

Problem is, I scrolled down and read under the section "Health: Golden Living," and the directive seems to condemn, or at least caution against (among other things), herbal remedies, chiropractic, biofeedback, homeopathic medicine, and massage. Not to mention 'twelve step programs' (presumably including Alcoholics Anonymous).

I don't know how old the document is, but whoever wrote the 'health' section of it seems to have been influenced by a panel of mainstream MDs. That particular section does nothing to lessen the confusion that devout Catholics feel when trying to make the best decisions about how to improve their health. People can literally make themselves sick with stress, and some of these alternative practices can help with that. As opposed to the 'band-aid' approach that pharmaceuticals provide.

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I agree with you, Veronica. Alternative medicine is a slippery slope and we must be very discerning, but I definitely think if has its place in our general health management. As long as we are believing the healing is coming from Jesus Christ and not "our inner or higher selves" I think it can be a valuable tool in our health management, and is certainly preferable to popping a bunch of pills to deal with the stress of daily living.
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But wouldn't you also think we ought to be cautious about proscribing to Jesus something that may not be "of Jesus"? What are some good discernment tools we have for knowing if something is contrary to Our Most benevolent God? Not that you have to adhere to spiritual warfare ideology, but even if we were to understand scripture as metaphorically describing evil, aren't we taught that it will come in a form that is most compelling, provocative, and in its subtle false-beauty will seek to draw us away from the Truth of beauty Himself? Pray for prudence and the gift of discernment!

Opinions are interesting to toss about, even pseudoscience sounds compelling, but Truth is true, and that's why it lasts. There have always been "alternative practitioners" and for centuries, they have most often relied on subtle heresy to draw people towards the inverse of Truth. We are not energy separated from body, no, we are whole dignified beings, made in Gods image, body and soul, inseparable. Seems best to be wise and cautious about anything that teaches that it tends to our various "energies".

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Thanks so much for posting this. Since my last post, after much prayer and discernment, and other things that have taken my attention away from it,I have decided to stop the EFT, that it was treading in murky waters, as you pointed out. I have gotten rid of most of my books but kept a few that haven't blended EFT with other New Age mysticism techniques until God puts it on my heart to get rid of those too. God bless!
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I found the following on a website: http://www.emofree.com

Deepak Chopra, MD
"EFT offers great healing benefits."

I understand that Deepak Chopra is heavy into New Age and considered a guru, so if he is endorsing this, then one should beware.

I have personally suffered from anxiety and life was dark and what really helped was music, sacred music. Signing/chanting in the most beautiful inner voice. Prayer in the form of music. Ave Maria is the top prayer to sing. As a mother would sign it to her child. Don't push your voice but internalize what you are saying from your heart. King David played a certain harp, singing his prayers. Music is a great tool provided by God if used correctly. It is just a suggestion. Also, a really great book "Story of a Soul" by Saint Therese helped.
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