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Jul 14, '12, 9:10 pm
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Ecumenical Councils
I heard there are but 6, but I am finding 7 listed;
- Nicea (325) Creed
- Constantinople (381) Trinity
- Ephasus (431) Divinity of Christ
- Chalcedon (451) Hypostasis
- Constantinople (553)
- Constantinople (680)
- Nicea (787) iconoclasts
Any input?
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Jul 14, '12, 9:22 pm
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
There were seven.
Tomorrow (or today depending on where you are) is the feast day for the first six.
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Jul 14, '12, 9:32 pm
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
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There were seven.
Tomorrow (or today depending on where you are) is the feast day for the first six.
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That is where I get the 6 from....
Is there a different feast day for the 7th?
I am excited because tomorrow Father Sopoliga will be giving a class on the 6 councils after the DL. I am thoroughly enjoying learning about the Eastern Church. My youngest will be receiving Confirmation in August!
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Jul 14, '12, 9:38 pm
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
According to this article it is celebrated on the Sunday nearest October 11th.
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The fact that the Seventh Ecumenical Council (Nicea II) is not commemorated today testifies to the antiquity of today's celebration. The Seventh Council, commemorated on the Sunday nearest to October 11, was convened at Nicea in the year 787 against the Iconoclast heresy, under the emperor Constantine and his mother Irene.
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Jul 15, '12, 2:54 am
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
There are seven councils accepted by all of the West and East (excluding the Nestorians [Assyrian Church] and Monophysites [Oriental Church]). The Feast of Orthodoxy, the feast of the seventh council, is celebrated on the second Sunday of Great Lent.
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Jul 15, '12, 3:13 am
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
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and Monophysites [Oriental Church]
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Jul 15, '12, 5:53 am
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
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That is where I get the 6 from....
Is there a different feast day for the 7th?
I am excited because tomorrow Father Sopoliga will be giving a class on the 6 councils after the DL.
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Fr. Sopoliga will undoubtedly mention in this class that the fathers at the seventh council are commemorated separately, in October.
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Jul 15, '12, 5:55 am
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
The Triumph of Orthodoxy the feast of the Seventh Council if I remember correctly.
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Jul 15, '12, 6:06 am
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
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There are seven councils accepted by all of the West and East (excluding the Nestorians [Assyrian Church] and Monophysites [Oriental Church]). The Feast of Orthodoxy, the feast of the seventh council, is celebrated on the second Sunday of Great Lent.
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Well, yes, in the same way that all of North America (excluding Canada and Mexico) celebrates July 4 as Independence Day.
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Jul 15, '12, 6:15 am
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
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There are seven councils accepted by all of the West and East (excluding the Nestorians [Assyrian Church] and Monophysites [Oriental Church]).
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On second thought, no. You'd have to also exclude Baptists, Pentecostals, and Presbyterians, and I think Methodists too.
Maybe you should just say "There are seven councils accepted by all of the West and East (excluding those in the West or East who don't accept them)."
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Jul 15, '12, 6:19 am
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
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The Triumph of Orthodoxy the feast of the Seventh Council if I remember correctly.
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Given mention of Fr Sopoliga, rciadan is undoubtedly attending a Byzantine Catholic Church [Ruthenian] in the U.S. In this Church:
The Fathers at the First Six Ecumenical Councils are commemorated today (Sunday between July 13 and July 19).
The Fathers at the Seventh Ecumenical Council are commemorated separately in October (on the Sunday between October 11 and October 17).
The Triumph (Sunday) of Orthodoxy is likewise observed on the First Sunday of the Great Fast, and is indeed a reflection on the Seventh Ecumenical Council.
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Jul 15, '12, 4:06 pm
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Re: Ecumenical Councils
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I heard there are but 6, but I am finding 7 listed;
- Nicea (325) Creed
- Constantinople (381) Trinity
- Ephasus (431) Divinity of Christ
- Chalcedon (451) Hypostasis
- Constantinople (553)
- Constantinople (680)
- Nicea (787) iconoclasts
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It depends. There are some Eastern Orthodox that also accept: 8. Constantinople (879) Photius restored, Creed change anathema, reverse 869 Council.
9. Constantinople (1341) Accept Palamas, condemn Barlaarm.
And then there are Eastern Catholics that accept all the Latin Councils from Constantinople (869) through Vatican II.
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