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Old Jun 19, '12, 10:48 pm
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It is the difference between confidence and arrogance.
What is? (Forgive me if I'm being dense.)
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Old Jun 20, '12, 1:14 am
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What is? (Forgive me if I'm being dense.)
The confidence that we can place in our Church, versus the arrogance of those who believe that they alone know the truth.
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The confidence that we can place in our Church, versus the arrogance of those who believe that they alone know the truth.
Confidence in apostolic Christianity (since I'm leaning toward Eastern Orthodoxy) is something we can agree on. May God save us from the arrogance of the misinformed and protect us from being in that category, haha*.

*This is not a subtle knock against your Catholic faith.
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Amen, well said!

Go challenge Matt Slick to a series of debates on the sacramental principle, the seven sacraments, salvation by faith and works, sacred tradition, and a visible church... and I'll be among the first in line to watch you smash this dude's misconceptions and misrepresentations. Slick denies that you and I, and indeed Martin Luther, are even Christian, so his position richly deserves to be refuted.
I always get this warm, fuzzy feeling when a guy like this puts me in the same condemned category as my Catholic siblings.

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I always get this warm, fuzzy feeling when a guy like this puts me in the same condemned category as my Catholic siblings.

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I always get this warm, fuzzy feeling when a guy like this puts me in the same condemned category as my Catholic siblings.
This evening I'll make sure to pack an enormous cooler with as much bottled water and ice cream as possible, so as to keep these necessities always at the ready until old age. This way, we sacramentalists--Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox, et al--who depart into the next world at the same time can together survive the boiling temperatures we're bound to face in hell for "adding to the finished work of Christ" by our "unbiblical" doctrine.

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You just know that you're doing something right!
Gotta be. lol

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This evening I'll make sure to pack an enormous cooler with as much bottled water and ice cream as possible, so as to keep these necessities always at the ready until old age. This way, we sacramentalists--Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox, et al--who depart into the next world at the same time can together survive the boiling temperatures we're bound to face in hell for "adding to the finished work of Christ" by our "unbiblical" doctrine.

Perhaps a case or two of that beverage made with hops and barley might nice around the, err, "campfire", too.

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Perhaps a case or two of that beverage made with hops and barley might nice around the, err, "campfire", too.
Haha!

And though I myself prefer Caribbean rum and Dutch eggnog liqueur, I'll be sure to include good beer, as you've requested, and fine wine as well.

Cheers!
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