I miss listening to Eminem

[LilyM]

Originally Posted by Lost Wanderer

Exactly! If people can interpret poetry and fiction through the lens of their own values, how are songs any different?

As far as Lose Yourself goes, you are spot on. God gave us our hands, our minds, our WILL so why not use them? Why do we let ourselves be trodden down by circumstances? It's gotten to the point that we've allowed even our faith to be an excuse for sloth. We are made in God's image and likeness for heaven's sake! We should stand up and fight! Before we go running to Him and asking Him to play genie, let's look to what He has already given us!

That's precisely the song I first thought of - fantastic!

Stan? Not so much. Any other of his songs that I've ever heard? Not so much either.

Sound effects that are sinful? Well, offhand I can think of a couple of songs that do have sound effects that are entirely sinful - won't name them lest others go and listen to them. None of them are rap songs, oddly enough.

[Elizium23]

Originally Posted by Lost Wanderer

There is no such thing as a sinful sound effect.

And obviously, you've never really dug deep into the essence of Eminem's better songs. I'd take songs that tell me to stand up for myself and grab every God-given opportunity than religious hymns lacking empathy.

I did not say what you attributed to me. Please pay attention to your quotes and get it right next time.

[Lost Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Elizium23

I did not say what you attributed to me. Please pay attention to your quotes and get it right next time.

Hey cool off and sue me. I'm only human.

[NewEnglandPriest]

Not everyone has the same taste in music but I don't get all that concerned about lyrics in songs, its more about why you're listening to it. Afterall, some people like horror movies or romance movies or gangster movies but I don't think it means their souls are in danger, its just a form of entertainment, distraction, storytelling, etc.

As for Eminem, I do like his song Lose Yourself.

[Gods_Peace]

You think that garbage he raps about takes talent? It really doesn't. It's just garbage lined up to look nice, but it can't hide from Gods eyes, and I believe it is disgusting.

[Gods_Peace]

Originally Posted by NewEnglandPriest

Not everyone has the same taste in music but I don't get all that concerned about lyrics in songs, its more about why you're listening to it. Afterall, some people like horror movies or romance movies or gangster movies but I don't think it means their souls are in danger, its just a form of entertainment, distraction, storytelling, etc.

As for Eminem, I do like his song Lose Yourself.

Eminem is so fake.

[sdegutis]

If anyone doesn't see that listening to Eminem (even the censored versions) is harmful to the soul, I highly recommend you think deeply about the issue, and read one of many Catholic books on morality. One of my favorites is "Introduction to the Devout Life", by St. Francis de Sales which touches on this kind of "entertainment" very insightfully.

[ShanaA1984]

Originally Posted by styrgwillidar

"Lose Yourself" is a great song, the communication of the frustration of poverty, the desperation, the desire for the opportunity for a better life and the guts, ability to step up to it, use your God given abilities to their fullest and fulfill your responsibilities to take care of your family.

The message in music, like any art form, depends just as much on the audience and how they perceive it as it does on the author/composer and what they intend to convey. Morally, the message in the musical 'Grease' is far more offensive to me than what I've heard of Eminem. (not much of his that I've listened to more than once, Lose Yourself is kind of an exception for me). I don't think there's harm in listening to music, or viewing an artist's work, considering it in the context of one's own values. You've a pretty weak moral foundation of music will influence you to abandon your values.

Excellent example

[Hansel Paul]

You have to distinguish good music from bad music.Eminem's lyrics on one song which he continually swears to God.Thou Shall not take the name of the Lord Thy God in Vain,trust me don't listen to his music.Rebellion is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

[LilyM]

Originally Posted by Hansel Paul

You have to distinguish good music from bad music.Eminem's lyrics on one song which he continually swears to God.Thou Shall not take the name of the Lord Thy God in Vain,trust me don't listen to his music.Rebellion is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

Of course. I'm not advocating going out and buying his albums. And as I said, only one of the songs that I know (and I know the ones I do through their being on tv and radio a lot) ISN'T full of references to sex drugs or violence.

[Jacksonpm23]

I used to listen to Eminem when I was 12 and 13.
His songs are way too mainstream and really are just flat out evil. (Have you listened to "Buffalo Bill"?, that song is not just evil, but flat out weird. . .)
Highly recommend for NOBODY to listen to his **** "music"

[jennstall]

I listen to Eminem a fair bit and have all of his albums. Many of his songs about sex and drugs are confessional in nature and work well as cautionary tales. Even Stan is a cautionary tale. Some of his other stuff is satirical.

In my opinion, a lot of his recent work is an expression of his struggle with poor self-esteem,addiction, loss (his best friend was murdered, his uncle committed suicide), depression and self-loathing and there's a great deal of pain there. I admire his no holds barred manner of sharing his current emotional state. As someone who suffers from clinical depression, I relate a great deal to some of what he shares and I find it cathartic to listen to him. There but for the grace of God, and all that.