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Old Jun 26, '12, 4:14 pm
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But just as valid....true?
It is as valid as the fact that platypus's are poisonous.

It may be true but it has nothing to do with what is being discussed. In the context you put it, it comes off as an attempt to put down those who are Orthodox for absolutely no reason.
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Doesn't "Roman Church" generally refer to the Diocese of Rome itself? Well, except when sixteenth and seventeenth century Protestant polemicists used it to refer to the communion of churches in communion with the Church of Rome, that is...
At Trent it was used to mean the whole thing.
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At Trent it was used to mean the whole thing.
Oh, I never noticed that! Interesting. I guess it makes sense, given that the context was western Christianity and the rise of Protestantism.

Do you have an example/citation? I'm curious enough that I'd like to see the exact spot for myself.
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Doesn't "Roman Church" generally refer to the Diocese of Rome itself? Well, except when sixteenth and seventeenth century Protestant polemicists used it to refer to the communion of churches in communion with the Church of Rome, that is...
At Trent it was used to mean the whole thing.
That's interesting, but are you sure? I wonder if you might be thinking of Vatican I.
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That's interesting, but are you sure? I wonder if you might be thinking of Vatican I.
No, definitely Trent. I'll see if I can find the reference later on, I don't have the time right now.
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No, definitely Trent. I'll see if I can find the reference later on, I don't have the time right now.
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http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent.html

It uses the term in the Bull of Indiction several times. I suppose though that as it is referring to the cardinals, who technically hold churches in Rome, you could argue it means the Bishopric of Rome, although I myself don't buy that
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