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Old Jul 2, '12, 1:29 pm
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Do you think most people pay so much attention to the niceties of Roberts' argument that it is a tax or the disagreement between the justices on the status of Obamacare? What's the percentage of people in the country who don't even vote? And among those who do vote, they'll just hear Romney's campaign say it is a tax, or penalty, or whatever, and Obama's say something else. I would predict the whole SC decision will become boring to most of the electorate in a month or so and the state of the economy will resurface as the major issue in both campaigns.
I do not think people are going to ignore this issue, not when the outcome of the election and the implication of health care depending on who the next president is is going directly impact so many peoples wallets in an already near recession economy, and not when polls have shown the intensity against ObamaTax is stronger than intensity in support of ObamaTax
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Supreme Court majority opinion declared it as a tax. Most people know that, it was declared so across the screens of all cable and broadcast news stations. I think trying to wade around the fact that it was declared a tax is going to make ObamaTax even more unpopular, because Pelosi etc. are having to defend that is not a tax and more attention is brought to it
I think the people who know it is tax, always new it would be a tax--yet many millions will believe it is not a tax. It does not help that Romney is not actually calling it a tax.
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I do not think people are going to ignore this issue, not when the outcome of the election and the implication of health care depending on who the next president is is going directly impact so many peoples wallets in an already near recession economy, and not when polls have shown the intensity against ObamaTax is stronger than intensity in support of ObamaTax
Sadly, I think people will lose attention by the end of this month, maybe earlier.
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I think the people who know it is tax, always new it would be a tax--yet many millions will believe it is not a tax. It does not help that Romney is not actually calling it a tax.
If I heard the word penalty I would think a charge for not purchasing something. People are assuming Romney is not going to use the word tax because of what his campaign aide said, but Romney has said of the taxes, why would he change this wording when it is the truth

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Sadly, I think people will lose attention by the end of this month, maybe earlier.
If they ever paid attention at all.
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Team Romney: No, we’re not declaring ‘cease-fire’ on Obamacare

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In the days since the Supreme Court decision upholding Obamacare, some Democrats and commentators in the press have suggested that Mitt Romney is declaring a “cease-fire” on the issue and will no longer make it a centerpiece of his campaign to defeat President Obama.

“Romney Campaign Declaring Cease Fire on Health Care,” reads the headline of a story on the National Journal website. “For an issue that’s supposedly potent against Democrats, Romney’s campaign is declaring a cease fire,” writes National Journal’s Josh Kraushaar. Less definitively, Scott Conroy at RealClearPolitics writes that as Romney spends the Fourth of July holiday in New Hampshire, “the extent to which he will emphasize health care in the months ahead remained uncertain.”

If Romney has, in fact, declared a “cease-fire” over Obamacare, that would certainly be welcome news to the Obama campaign, where officials have expressed a desire to move on from the troubled and unpopular health care law. “After SCOTUS ruling, poll says Americans want to move on,” tweeted top campaign aide David Axelrod Monday. “But GOP Congress? They want to have themselves a Tea Party.” Axelrod was referring to a new Kaiser Family Foundation survey in which, according to a Los Angeles Times report, “a majority of Americans now want to put the fight over the Affordable Care Act behind them.”

So is the Romney campaign, in fact, declaring a “cease-fire” on Obamacare? No, no, no, says Romney spokesman Ryan Williams. “From our perspective, Obamacare has been and will continue to be a central issue in the campaign,” says Williams. “It presents voters with a bright line that divides the two candidates. Gov. Romney is going to repeal Obamacare and President Obama is going to keep it. There is a clear choice in November.”

“It is something that [Romney] has been discussing on the campaign trail for the past year and that he will continue to discuss,” Williams adds. “It is bad law, it is bad policy, and it’s something that Gov. Romney is going to address on his first day in office. His commitment to repealing Obamacare is as strong as it was on the day Congress jammed it down the throat of the American public.”
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