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May 23, '12, 7:49 pm
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Re: The Latin Mass - Should It Be the Universal Catholic Mass Again?
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Originally Posted by Stylites
The faithfulness of the "faithful" is questionable if they are more concerned with hearing Latin and seeing a priest's back than they are in attending a licit Mass approved by the faith.
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Originally Posted by TrueLight
I hate to say this, but the fact that you describe it as "seeing a priest's back" shows a lack of catechesis.
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Originally Posted by Stylites
Showing a lack of catechesis would be driving past numerous licit Masses to reach an illicit one.
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Originally Posted by ProVobis
What kind of an argument is that to back up your ad orientem attack?
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TL & PV-
I do not presume to speak for Stylites, but, the way I am understanding what is being said is that someone who drives past a valid and "licit" Mass to attend a valid but "illicit" Mass because they prefer the externals and without them perceive something as less-than or abusive, IMHO is not very "faithful".
I will give you that I did cringe a little at the "looking at the priest's back comment", but I do not think that it was meant as a slam to "ad orientem".
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May 23, '12, 7:51 pm
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Re: The Latin Mass - Should It Be the Universal Catholic Mass Again?
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Originally Posted by Oneofthewomen
I will give you that I did cringe a little at the "looking at the priest's back comment", but I do not think that it was meant as a slam to "ad orientem".
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I think you're more sure of that than he is.
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May 23, '12, 7:52 pm
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Re: The Latin Mass - Should It Be the Universal Catholic Mass Again?
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Originally Posted by trickster
Should the Latin Mass be the universal Catholic mass again?
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NO! And you know what my reason is.
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May 23, '12, 7:55 pm
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Re: The Latin Mass - Should It Be the Universal Catholic Mass Again?
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Originally Posted by Oneofthewomen
TL & PV-
I do not presume to speak for Stylites, but, the way I am understanding what is being said is that someone who drives past a valid and "licit" Mass to attend a valid but "illicit" Mass because they prefer the externals and without them perceive something as less-than or abusive, IMHO is not very "faithful".
I will give you that I did cringe a little at the "looking at the priest's back comment", but I do not think that it was meant as a slam to "ad orientem".
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It's also assuming alot.
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May 23, '12, 8:07 pm
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Re: The Latin Mass - Should It Be the Universal Catholic Mass Again?
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Originally Posted by OraLabora
You're way off base, insinuating things I never said.
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I never said you insinuated it. But you jumped all over me to defend the person that did insinuate such things.
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May 23, '12, 8:09 pm
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Re: The Latin Mass - Should It Be the Universal Catholic Mass Again?
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Originally Posted by trickster
Should the Latin Mass be the universal Catholic mass again?
I am interested in polling how many people think we should return to just the Latin Mass within the church and phase out the Ordinary Format (the mass since Vatican II)...
Bruce
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How I look at it is taking a step backward will help us move forward. Some times you have to turn back the clock on your watch to get the right time. Plus if you don't pull backwards on a sling shot your projectile will never go forward.
Maybe the answer to a Liturgical problem (if we could even call it that) is to have Catholics take a step backward, reflect, and then move forward.
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May 23, '12, 8:11 pm
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Re: The Latin Mass - Should It Be the Universal Catholic Mass Again?
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Originally Posted by jam070406
It's also assuming alot.
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So I am "assuming" the best and you and the others the worst.
Either way, we are all "assuming". 
Unless & until Stylites comes back to answer, I guess we will never know.
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May 23, '12, 8:12 pm
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Re: The Latin Mass - Should It Be the Universal Catholic Mass Again?
Completely derailed
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