A date for the "Great Apostasy" - Page 42

TexanKnight · #**616** Mar 11, '13, 11:41 am

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Originally Posted by SteveVH

Not that TexanKnight needs any help, but this really caught my eye. Gazelam, to forgive one's enemies is "god-like". To love is "god-like". To be immortal is "god-like". We were made in the image and likeness of God, but we will never be God.

The erroneous belief that you are literal sons and daughters of God is certainly at play in this notion, along with the belief that there is no difference in the substance of God and the substance of man. Yet Scripture tells that that we are not literal sons and daughters of God, rather we are sons and daughters by adoption (John 1:12, Romans 8:14-16, Galatians 4:4-6).

You say: "offspring always progress over time to become the same essence as the parent." Again, you are confused. Human children have human parents so it is no mystery that human children may attain what their human parents have attained, and many times, even more. Not so when it comes to God. Only God is God. We will forever be his creatures, but creatures who he has invited to share in his very life and thus creatures who will share in his divinity. But we will still only be creatures, adopted as his sons and daughters, who share in the divinity of the one and only God; we will never be God. We will spend eternity worshiping him in complete awe and wonder.

tis all stems from the belief and teaching that Adam was our God and Eve our Mother-God. (Heavenly Mother).

SteveVH · #**617** Mar 11, '13, 11:54 am

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tis all stems from the belief and teaching that Adam was our God and Eve our Mother-God. (Heavenly Mother).

Yes. I've never heard the answer to the obvious question this poses. If God was Michael who came to earth and became Adam, then who did Adam sin against (forgetting for the moment that this obviously does mean that God was was a sinful man)?

Did he sin agains heavenly Grandfather?

TexanKnight · #**618** Mar 11, '13, 1:07 pm

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Originally Posted by SteveVH

Yes. I've never heard the answer to the obvious question this poses. If God was Michael who came to earth and became Adam, then who did Adam sin against (forgetting for the moment that this obviously does mean that God was was a sinful man)?

Did he sin agains heavenly Grandfather?

A Mormon later than Joe and Brigham must have realized that fault when they started the dishonest practice of first saying the doctrine was never taught and later saying it was simply opinion.

SteveVH · #**619** Mar 11, '13, 1:36 pm

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Originally Posted by TexanKnight

A Moron later than Joe and Brigham must have realized that fault when they started the dishonest practice of first saying the doctrine was never taught and later saying it was simply opinion.

Either that or they do not consider what Adam did to be a sin. I've heard that one as well.

TexanKnight · #**620** Mar 11, '13, 1:43 pm

ah geez....please forgive me! I NEVER intended to say "Moron" I intended to type Mormon. It will not let me edit. I am truly truly sorry. I would have NEVER posted that word. I hope no Mormons were offended. It was not my intent.

SteveVH · #**621** Mar 11, '13, 2:47 pm

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ah geez....please forgive me! I NEVER intended to say "Moron" I intended to type Mormon. It will not let me edit. I am truly truly sorry. I would have NEVER posted that word. I hope no Mormons were offended. It was not my intent.

lol. I didn't even see that until you mentioned it.

Miriam1947 · #**622** Mar 11, '13, 8:19 pm

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lol. I didn't even see that until you mentioned it.

I saw it right away but I make enough typos to recognize one when I see it.

KathleenGee · #**623** Mar 11, '13, 9:27 pm

Honestly, I have typed out a different spelling myself and have had to go back to correct....

TexanKnight · #**624** Mar 12, '13, 3:57 am

I am a terrible typist. I often forget whole words because my mind is faster than my pathetic typing. Usually, spell check helps.....but , in this case, no word was misspelled. I put the wrong word, but spelled it correctly.

TexanKnight · #**625** Mar 12, '13, 4:07 am

I have asked staff to correct it

Arandur · #**626** Mar 13, '13, 10:34 am

In my new blog, I've got a couple of posts that address some of the issues regarding "Apostasy Theory" in the context of the Papal Conclave and how the pope and the Church are a witness to the world of God's providence.

Anyone who might be interested...I'd appreciate any views, follows, comments, etc. I just started the blog

I'll probably update the url to something friendlier, and possibly the name, too, but please check it out here: http://firebynightex1322.wordpress.com

My primary contention is that, while the works of man and Satan divide and decay, those of God unite and withstand time. The two great evidences in history of this that we see are in the mere existence of the Jewish people, and also the continuity of the Church. Both defy any other expectations or parallels in human history.

KathleenGee · #**627** Mar 13, '13, 4:43 pm

Thanks, Arandur....like learning from you.

There is likewise a Jewish contributor, Kohen...not full name, who can really dialogue in way that is very understandable with us here on the differences between his interpretation and ours of the Messiah.....