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Old Jul 1, '12, 4:47 pm
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Washington D.C., Jul 1, 2012 / 05:09 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- By insisting on abortion referrals in its anti-trafficking work, the Obama administration may be inadvertently helping the perpetrators of sex-slavery, a former Health and Human Services official says.

“The present policy of the (HHS) department is: 'Victims be damned; we're going to make an ideological point, that we want them referred to Planned Parenthood' – notwithstanding the fact that it's not in the best interests of victims,” Renewal Forum President Steven Wagner told CNA.
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I don't find this to be surprising at all. Commitment to evil is only going to cause more evil.
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It appears to make sense. The traffickers could only benefit from this option.
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It appears to make sense. The traffickers could only benefit from this option.
I agree. I seriously doubt that sex traffickers would benefit from pro-life laws. That's all the more reason to be pro-life!
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I don't find this to be surprising at all. Commitment to evil is only going to cause more evil.
Neither do I. Planned Parenthood is discusting.
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This opinion is downright stupid. If abortion or contraceptives were illegal, traffickers would just get illegal abortions or contraceptives. Do you seriously think that someone engaged in human trafficking would say "Oh no, in order to get abortions for my girls I'd have to break the law, guess I'd better give up human trafficking?"

At least in the case of legal abortions law enforcement could see if someone was getting an unusual number of abortions and use it as the basis for some sort of investigation.
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This opinion is downright stupid. If abortion or contraceptives were illegal, traffickers would just get illegal abortions or contraceptives. Do you seriously think that someone engaged in human trafficking would say "Oh no, in order to get abortions for my girls I'd have to break the law, guess I'd better give up human trafficking?".
So you think having government pay for their abortions is the answer? That opinion is downright stupid.
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At least in the case of legal abortions law enforcement could see if someone was getting an unusual number of abortions and use it as the basis for some sort of investigation.
And who is reporting this to the authorities?


I think the article has a good point regarding informed consent...
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At least in the case of legal abortions law enforcement could see if someone was getting an unusual number of abortions and use it as the basis for some sort of investigation.

Do you honestly think PP reports their best customers to the law enforcement?
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This opinion is downright stupid. If abortion or contraceptives were illegal, traffickers would just get illegal abortions or contraceptives. Do you seriously think that someone engaged in human trafficking would say "Oh no, in order to get abortions for my girls I'd have to break the law, guess I'd better give up human trafficking?"

At least in the case of legal abortions law enforcement could see if someone was getting an unusual number of abortions and use it as the basis for some sort of investigation.
The obama administration forced Catholic charities out ilof this ministry because they wouldst refer fit abortions. Now who do you think would be more compassionate and more interested in freeing these women. PP or acathokic Charities?
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This opinion is downright stupid. If abortion or contraceptives were illegal, traffickers would just get illegal abortions or contraceptives. Do you seriously think that someone engaged in human trafficking would say "Oh no, in order to get abortions for my girls I'd have to break the law, guess I'd better give up human trafficking?"

At least in the case of legal abortions law enforcement could see if someone was getting an unusual number of abortions and use it as the basis for some sort of investigation.
Not really. If the records of a legal abortion could be used to help fight trafficking, the traffickers would go with the illegal abortion option.
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Not really. If the records of a legal abortion could be used to help fight trafficking, the traffickers would go with the illegal abortion option.
As if illegal abortion has been wiped out by legal abortion. Kermit Gosnell anyone?
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So you think having government pay for their abortions is the answer? That opinion is downright stupid.
Where did I say that?
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Not really. If the records of a legal abortion could be used to help fight trafficking, the traffickers would go with the illegal abortion option.
Indeed. I noticed that the article was lacking any evidence that traffickers were actually using legal abortion services.
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I think the article has a good point regarding informed consent...
I really didn't get the point about informed consent. Maybe you could expand on it.

It seemed to me that they were saying that the worst part about being a victim of human trafficking was not being able to provide informed consent to your abortions. The fact that these women are being forced into sex slavery in the first place didn't seem to bother the writer.
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Do you honestly think PP reports their best customers to the law enforcement?
I was thinking more along the lines of the authorities requesting records of people suspected of being victims of sex trafficking, but my wording was unclear.
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