Wearing the Cassock as a Seminarian?? - Page 3

JReducation · #31 Oct 31, '12, 6:18 pm

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Originally Posted by ThereseAdrianna

I attend a college and a seminary, and the seminarians that I see wear cassocks with the collar, suits, or the black shirt, pants, and collar.

The ones who wear the cassocks are called brothers, and they have taken vows.

They're called Brother, not because they're studying to be priests, but because they are consecrated men.

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The ones who wear suits are seminarians with the diocese

These are not consecrated men, nor will they ever be consecrated men. They are called Mister until they become deacons, then they go either by Rev. Mr or by Deacon X.

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, whereas in a religious order like with the Fathers of Mercy, they would wear suits as a postulant.

The Fathers of Mercy are not a religious order. They are congregation of clerics, clerks regular or simply a religious congregation. These are communities for men who are both clergy and consecrated. Hence the term clerk for cleric and regular for those who follow a rule (regula). In English they are also called regular priests as oppose to secular priests.

Religious orders are Benedictine, Augustinian, Franciscan, Servites, Dominicans, Carthusians, Carmelites, Trinitarians, Jesuits, Norbertines (O'Praem), Cistercians and Briggitines. Some of these orders have multiple obediences. An obedience is a community that shares the same rule as another community, but owes obedience to its own government. For example, Franciscans have a common rule, but we do not have common government. We're just too big. Each community is an obedience. The same is true of the Augustinian and the Benedictine families.

The common mistake that people make is that they often believe that the habit, cassock or Roman collar is the sign of the priest. That's not the case in the Latin Church. The habit, cassock and Roman collar are worn by priests, brothers, seminarians, deacons, monks, friars and hermits. They are mostly worn by the clergy in the West, Catholic and non-Catholic. The dress of the clergy and religious in the East is very different. Often, in the East, if a man is celibate, he wears a veil. I can't recall what it's called.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV

CatholicGuy22 · #32 Nov 5, '12, 8:36 am

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Originally Posted by mymamamary

Dear Forum,

In one year and a bits time, I hope to be attending Seminary at CHRIST THE KING, In BC. Now, i have a question according to dress. Can I wear the Cassock, minus the collar? I want to get rid of my secular clothes and wear a Cassock as a Seminarian, and if need be, without the collar (at least until that hopeful, magical day comes 6-8 years down the road..

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Would this be sinful of me?

am i allowed? Even without the collar?

I dont want to wear my secular clothes, as i want to live for CHRIST, so i feel the Hollister, Aeropostale, Ralph Lauren etc has to go!! Instead, can i don a nice Cassock?

I appreciate your help dear readers!!

Dude, the world is not as evil as you think. Whats wrong with secular clothing? Jesus wore secular clothing during his time. God is present in the world! Don't run away from it!

JReducation · #33 Nov 5, '12, 2:20 pm

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Originally Posted by CatholicGuy22

Dude, the world is not as evil as you think. Whats wrong with secular clothing? Jesus wore secular clothing during his time. God is present in the world! Don't run away from it!

So have many religious communities and secular priests for centuries. The issue is that one does not know that they are religious or priests, because the mind of the founder was for them to remain anonymous in the world.

We seem to have a problem with anonymity.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, FFV

Burdensome1 · #34 Nov 6, '12, 10:48 pm

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Your seminary formators know what they're doing with the dress code.

Oh, oh....that is SO funny!

paperwight66 · #35 Nov 7, '12, 8:13 am

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Originally Posted by Burdensome1

Oh, oh....that is SO funny!

What do you mean?

Khalid · #36 Nov 9, '12, 12:24 pm

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Originally Posted by paperwight66

What do you mean?

I think he means that some seminaries are infested with a form of dissident or heterodox liberalism (I have experienced censure for referring to God using masculine pronouns, for having a veneration of the Blessed Virgin, and for being a strict creationist, among others, so he is at least partially correct if I am not reading my own experiences in to his post), and (perhaps incorrectly) generalizes or extrapolates to the dress code, which Br. JR has addressed.