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Old Jun 26, '12, 3:27 pm
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okay so this has been bugging me for awhile, if God never changes, then how come in the Old Testament days divorce was perfectly okay, but in the New Testament days (now) its a sin if something was okay back then, then why not now? God bless
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okay so this has been bugging me for awhile, if God never changes, then how come in the Old Testament days divorce was perfectly okay, but in the New Testament days (now) its a sin if something was okay back then, then why not now? God bless
Divorce was never "okay". It was done, but it was never in keeping with God's will.
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okay so this has been bugging me for awhile, if God never changes, then how come in the Old Testament days divorce was perfectly okay, but in the New Testament days (now) its a sin if something was okay back then, then why not now? God bless
God didn't change, man did.

Man evolved spiritually and went from tribal theology to spiritual theology given to us through Jesus Christ.


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Mark 10

2 Some Pharisees approached him and asked, 'Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?' They were putting him to the test. 3 He answered them, 'What did Moses command you?'
4 They replied, 'Moses allowed us to draw up a writ of dismissal in cases of divorce.'
5 Then Jesus said to them, 'It was because you were so hard hearted that he wrote this commandment for you.

Apparently, God didn't change. He tolerated something which one of His prophets decreed. Jesus points to Moses commanding this as if on his own initiative. Earliest case of God abiding by 'bound on earth, bound in heaven; loosed on earth, loosed in heaven', perhaps?
Jesus does however, indicate quite emphatically what God intends for us to do.

Mark 10
6But from the beginning of creation he made them male and female.
7 This is why a man leaves his father and mother,
8 and the two become one flesh. They are no longer two, therefore, but one flesh.
9 So then, what God has united, human beings must not divide.'
10 Back in the house the disciples questioned him again about this,
11 and he said to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another is guilty of adultery against her.
12 And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another she is guilty of adultery too.'
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Mark 10

2 Some Pharisees approached him and asked, 'Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?' They were putting him to the test. 3 He answered them, 'What did Moses command you?'
4 They replied, 'Moses allowed us to draw up a writ of dismissal in cases of divorce.'
5 Then Jesus said to them, 'It was because you were so hard hearted that he wrote this commandment for you.

Apparently, God didn't change. He tolerated something which one of His prophets decreed. Jesus points to Moses commanding this as if on his own initiative. Earliest case of God abiding by 'bound on earth, bound in heaven; loosed on earth, loosed in heaven', perhaps?
Jesus does however, indicate quite emphatically what God intends for us to do.

Mark 10
6But from the beginning of creation he made them male and female.
7 This is why a man leaves his father and mother,
8 and the two become one flesh. They are no longer two, therefore, but one flesh.
9 So then, what God has united, human beings must not divide.'
10 Back in the house the disciples questioned him again about this,
11 and he said to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another is guilty of adultery against her.
12 And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another she is guilty of adultery too.'

So the Prophet was wrong for saying divorce is okay? God bless
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Yes.

Prophets are not always infallible. They make bad decisions just like the rest of us.
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Prophets are not always infallible. They make bad decisions just like the rest of us.
cool, cool, thanks for the answers everyone it was something satans been attacking me for awhile trying to use that to disprove Christianity to me. God bless y'all
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cool, cool, thanks for the answers everyone it was something satans been attacking me for awhile trying to use that to disprove Christianity to me. God bless y'all
You have raised an interesting and difficult question. Since God was speaking directly to Moses, why didn't he correct him on the edict allowing divorce? I don't know.

But I referenced the granting of authority to the Church, Christ's stating what you hold bound on earth will be held bound in heaven, loosed on earth will be loosed in heaven'. He also instructs us to go to the Church to resolve differences with our brothers/sisters which must include matters of religion/doctrine/faith. We as Catholics often cite this when referring to the Church's authority and the infallibility the Church has on matters of doctrine. Seems like a prophet speaking directly to God would be less susceptible to error. However, Christ assured us that He would be with the Church until the end of time, and promised us the Holy Spirit to lead us to the complete truth.
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