Special forum for the sex talk? - Page 2

28562 · #16 Jun 13, '12, 6:54 pm

Why don't we want younger people seeing sex threads and forming their opinions on it based on the Catholic view, rather than based on the trash they get bombarded with at school, on tv, in the line at the grocery store, etc...?

I'm not so sure it is a great idea to hide the 'good parts' of sexuality from them so the only exposure they have is all the bad stuff...

AthenaC · #17 Jun 13, '12, 8:11 pm

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Originally Posted by 28562

Why don't we want younger people seeing sex threads and forming their opinions on it based on the Catholic view, rather than based on the trash they get bombarded with at school, on tv, in the line at the grocery store, etc...?

I'm not so sure it is a great idea to hide the 'good parts' of sexuality from them so the only exposure they have is all the bad stuff...

Exactly. We WANT kids to see people thinking about sex the right way.

creole54 · #18 Jun 13, '12, 8:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Luigi Daniele

The ones that bother me are the "I am masturbating so much that I catch myself on fire".

I am always afraid that someone here at work will see the titles on the main page and get really odd ideas about me.

I absolutely agree. I made the mistake once of clicking on a thread of that nature. Never again. I understand that masturbation is a sin that most of us have dealt with at sometime or another, I'm not denying that it's a common problem, but I would like to see a sub-forum for those discussions. Just my .02 cents.

AllSeasons · #19 Jun 13, '12, 8:37 pm

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Originally Posted by 28562

Why don't we want younger people seeing sex threads and forming their opinions on it based on the Catholic view, rather than based on the trash they get bombarded with at school, on tv, in the line at the grocery store, etc...?

I'm not so sure it is a great idea to hide the 'good parts' of sexuality from them so the only exposure they have is all the bad stuff...

I disagree. The threads being posted are not educational in nature. They can be very graphic and give children wrong ideas about sex and other mature topics. The replies posted are not always kosher, despite this being a Catholic site.

This is absolutely not the way I'd want my kids learning about such topics.

AthenaC · #20 Jun 13, '12, 8:42 pm

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Originally Posted by AllSeasons

This is absolutely not the way I'd want my kids learning about such topics.

Indeed. One would not want their children to learn about such topics from a site where people actually give consideration to the principles of "unitive and procreative."

underacloud · #21 Jun 13, '12, 8:59 pm

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Originally Posted by AllSeasons

I disagree. The threads being posted are not educational in nature. They can be very graphic and give children wrong ideas about sex and other mature topics. The replies posted are not always kosher, despite this being a Catholic site.

This is absolutely not the way I'd want my kids learning about such topics.

While some replies are not correct or in keeping with Church teaching, in every thread about sex I've read on this forum, one or more posters have clearly, articulately, and assuredly presented Church teaching relevant to the matter.

As others have said, this is a much better place for young people to learn about sex than via the media, their friends, etc.

I have no problem with a subforum for sex topics...but keep in mind that doing so may increase the impression of this forum being over-focussed on sex, rather than diminish it.

The other, more practical issue, is that many sex topics come up in both the moral subforum and the family subforum. So would a sex forum be intended to encompass all issues (moral, family, and otherwise) related to sex? So it would be a whole new classification altogether?

28562 · #22 Jun 13, '12, 9:05 pm

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Originally Posted by AllSeasons

I disagree. The threads being posted are not educational in nature. They can be very graphic and give children wrong ideas about sex and other mature topics. The replies posted are not always kosher, despite this being a Catholic site.

This is absolutely not the way I'd want my kids learning about such topics.

Then I guess we'll let Little Johnny, Dr. Drew, and Dan Savage do all the teaching and be the majority of exposure kids get to sex.

The bottom line is that at 13 (which is the age that someone mentioned was the minimum for this site) kids know more about sex than their parents probably do these days. And they sure didn't learn it from someone who, as Athena said, approaches it from a unitive and procreative standpoint. All posters may not get it exactly right, but they are sure a much better example than everything else that teaches kids about sex these days.

I haven't been here all that long, but I haven't seen a thread that I would consider 'graphic'. And I sure haven't seen a thread that talks about any topic that most 13 year olds don't already know about these days.

AllSeasons · #23 Jun 13, '12, 9:29 pm

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Originally Posted by underacloud

As others have said, this is a much better place for young people to learn about sex than via the media, their friends, etc.

I think that's setting the bar pretty low. It's also a worse place for young people to learn about sex than from their parents, Catholic books, priests, etc.

underacloud · #24 Jun 13, '12, 11:17 pm

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Originally Posted by AllSeasons

I think that's setting the bar pretty low. It's also a worse place for young people to learn about sex than from their parents, Catholic books, priests, etc.

The bar may be low, but it's realistic. Media bombards young people with sexual content. Schools in developed countries all have sex education in secondary school (ages 12/13+). Young people since time immemorial have been curious about sex and will find out about it however they can. You can find whatever you want to regarding sex on the internet, so if they find their way here, it's better than most places they may end up.

How many people actually learn about sex from their parents? I didn't. And anyone I know who "had the talk" found it to be excruciating. And who learns about sex from priests? In the modern world, the issue of priests discussing sex with minors is very difficult and fraught with danger. As for the books, many of the sex threads here include references to recommended Catholic books and sometimes relevant quotes.

Sex is a very important topic and I think that it's great that there's a place to discuss it within an explicitly Catholic context. If young people want to read these threads and get a Catholic perspective on such topics, I think that's great too. There are issues regarding sex discussed here that I wish I had a better perspective on when I was younger.

AllSeasons · #25 Jun 14, '12, 8:22 am

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Originally Posted by underacloud

The bar may be low, but it's realistic. Media bombards young people with sexual content. Schools in developed countries all have sex education in secondary school (ages 12/13+). Young people since time immemorial have been curious about sex and will find out about it however they can. You can find whatever you want to regarding sex on the internet, so if they find their way here, it's better than most places they may end up.

How many people actually learn about sex from their parents? I didn't. And anyone I know who "had the talk" found it to be excruciating. And who learns about sex from priests? In the modern world, the issue of priests discussing sex with minors is very difficult and fraught with danger. As for the books, many of the sex threads here include references to recommended Catholic books and sometimes relevant quotes.

Sex is a very important topic and I think that it's great that there's a place to discuss it within an explicitly Catholic context. If young people want to read these threads and get a Catholic perspective on such topics, I think that's great too. There are issues regarding sex discussed here that I wish I had a better perspective on when I was younger.

I agree with you to some extent. However, some of the "sex talk" on here cannot be classified as educational by any stretch. It's more like a perversion of sex. For instance, 13-year-olds do not need to know the ins and outs of oral sex, transgender inclinations, specific homosexual activities, or any topic that's suited for a much more mature audience.

If children do not already have a sound foundation in understanding sex, and they stumble upon these forums and find these sorts of posts, it is not conducive to their sex education. It'll have quite the opposite effect, in fact.

Regardless, I think you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this topic.

AthenaC · #26 Jun 14, '12, 9:38 am

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Originally Posted by AllSeasons

I agree with you to some extent. However, some of the "sex talk" on here cannot be classified as educational by any stretch. It's more like a perversion of sex. For instance, 13-year-olds do not need to know the ins and outs of oral sex, transgender inclinations, specific homosexual activities, or any topic that's suited for a much more mature audience.

If children do not already have a sound foundation in understanding sex, and they stumble upon these forums and find these sorts of posts, it is not conducive to their sex education. It'll have quite the opposite effect, in fact.

Regardless, I think you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this topic.

We may just have to agree to disagree, but please consider that 13-year-olds are going to hear about oral sex, transgender inclinations, and homosexual activities from a secular world at a very young age. Hearing the secular perspective loud and clear while seeing clearly that homosexuals and transgenders are real people with real feelings and real lives (while the Catholic perspective is censored from them) is only going to cause these 13-year-olds to reject the Catholic perspective. Being shy about these sorts of things needs to go the way of the dinosaur if we are to reach the kids.

Tighty Whitey · #27 Jun 14, '12, 10:58 am

I'm oblivious to the notion that there is an abundance of "sex talk" on this site and therefore lack any sense of being tempted. I think having a specially designated area might lead others into temptation and/or not get their questions answered for fear of venturing into the "sex talk" section.

**Therese Martin** · #28 Jun 14, '12, 11:00 am

We have no plans to create a "sexual issues" sub-forum. A sub-forum set aside for such issues would only encourage people to ask more such questions when, in fact, we would greatly prefer it if people would refrain from asking questions about sexual matters of any type on CAF at all. We also would greatly prefer that members would instead use their prudence and sound judgment to ask such questions of a confessor, spiritual director, and/or medical and/or mental-health professional. Unfortunately, given the size and scope of CAF, there is no way to enforce this preference. We can only remove the most inappropriate whenever possible.