Chicago Church Leaders Roast Rahm Over Chick-fil-A Stance

[fastenatingguy]

Originally Posted by JimG

""Do not disrespect us...We, too, are Chicago," the Rev. Charles Lyons of the Armitage Baptist Church thundered from the pulpit Sunday."

It's pretty simple, really. If you're not part of Rahm's base, if you're not going to vote for him, you just don't have Chicago values!

As a lifelong Chicagoan, I am embarrassed by Rahm's version of the Democratic party. It is NOT the party that I grew up with in the 60's and 70's, in which many of the aldermen were Catholic ,most of the others were Christian, and even the Jews then, were all PRO LIFE and PRO MARRIAGE.

Now we have secular modernists running the party and that is how they want to run things. It's a shame that my vote has to be for a Mormon whose stance on many things important are unknown or possibly "right"

[CatholicBoy1957]

Originally Posted by Tietrack

I wish the the Bishops would "BLAST" the Obama administration. Stop being politically correct and touchy-feely in their mild words of criticism. They should start using the word "EVIL" and "CORRUPT" when refering to the Obama Administration. In fact if they referred to the Democrat Party with these same words they wouldn't be off the mark. The Catholic Bishops need to take the gloves off before its to late.

Originally Posted by Seeker1961

I would too. I think we toss around the word "evil" a little too freely and some of the political posts tend to wander pretty close to being uncharitable.

We can say that we believe what the administration is doing is wrong without calling the person "evil"-let's remember that it is the sin we condemn not the sinner.

I'll take this as applause for Tietrack, who correctly used the term, "Obama Administration", instead of the person. You also have my applause, Tietrack.

[Tampa Dave]

Obama and the Democrats act in what they perceive as America's best interests. Nonetheless, their secular attacks on the Catholic Church, directly or otherwise, concern me greatly.

[JimG]

Originally Posted by fastenatingguy

As a lifelong Chicagoan, I am embarrassed by Rahm's version of the Democratic party. It is NOT the party that I grew up with in the 60's and 70's, in which many of the aldermen were Catholic ,most of the others were Christian, and even the Jews then, were all PRO LIFE and PRO MARRIAGE.

Now we have secular modernists running the party and that is how they want to run things. It's a shame that my vote has to be for a Mormon whose stance on many things important are unknown or possibly "right"

I feel the same way. I cast my first vote for JFK, makng me way old. Neither he nor his party supported same sex marriage, abortion, or removing religious freedom. Neither did the party of LBJ or of Hubert Humphrey. It wasn't me that lost my moral bearings, it was the party.

[Trader]

Originally Posted by Tietrack

I wish the the Bishops would "BLAST" the Obama administration. Stop being politically correct and touchy-feely in their mild words of criticism. They should start using the word "EVIL" and "CORRUPT" when refering to the Obama Administration. In fact if they referred to the Democrat Party with these same words they wouldn't be off the mark. The Catholic Bishops need to take the gloves off before its to late.

I think most of the bishops have been pretty clear about blasting the policies, but they expect the people in the pews to connect the dots to the authors of those policies. Most of the bishops have at least one doctorate, many have two. Most of the people in the pews, and especially those who sleep in on Sunday, could not pass a basic test I used to give to confirmation candidates.

I personally wrote a letter to the editor of our local paper on the HHS mandate, but it was not published, probably because I referred to the mandate as evil. I believe the bishops are now doing heroic work on preaching the truth, but they are not being heard by the people who need to hear them and accept the message in their hearts.

[LisaA]

Originally Posted by JimG

I feel the same way. I cast my first vote for JFK, makng me way old. Neither he nor his party supported same sex marriage, abortion, or removing religious freedom. Neither did the party of LBJ or of Hubert Humphrey. It wasn't me that lost my moral bearings, it was the party.

No kidding. I was raised by liberal Democrats and originally registered as a Dem. Think I even cast a vote for Carter (Lord forgive me for that mistake!) but imagine LBJ or JFK or RFK voting for same sex marriage or abortion at will? The Democrat party has clearly come out on the far Left of the spectrum. I want to use the analogy of the lunatics running the asylum although probably uncharitable. The "rank and file" Democrats plug along and keep voting with a D even though they have strong disagreements with the hedonist bent of the party platform.

As a former Dem I used to think it was the Republicans who were corrupt, mostly due to living through the Nixon era. Always thought of the Dems as being the honest and earnest group. But Rahm, Obama et al have become unbelievably corrupt and sleazy.

Lisa

[Elizium23]

I am the same. Raised by Democrat Catholics and registered Democrat until one year ago. The party changed out from under us. Betrayed us. It used to be acceptable to be Catholic and Democrat: the people's party, the working man's party. The party that looks out for the poor. The party of the Kennedys. The party that Blacks and Hispanics could trust to uphold civil rights. But look at the members now. We have Biden, Pelosi, and Sebelius. People who are so embroiled in partisan politics that they have bought into the party's platform and abandoned their Catholic values. Or perhaps have used the party's stances as validation for their own heretical beliefs. It was once perfectly possible to be a respectable Catholic and a registered Democrat at the same time, but that ship has sailed and it's never coming back. Unfortunately it is not possible for the Republican party to listen to Catholic values regarding welfare entitlements, serving the poor, immigration and other issues, and to me it is increasingly evident that Republicans have a vested interest in keeping abortion legal, but like others, I suck it up and vote pro-life, if just to make a statement against the warped anti-Catholic values of today's Democratic party.

[Tampa Dave]

I grew up Catholic and Republican, though most Catholics along the northeast coast of Lake Erie were Democrats. We certainly didn't have the vitriolic division that exists today.

For the record, I am still Republican and blessedly Catholic by the Grace of God.

[BListon]

Originally Posted by Tampa Dave

I grew up Catholic and Republican, though most Catholics along the northeast coast of Lake Erie were Democrats. We certainly didn't have the vitriolic division that exists today.

For the record, I am still Republican and blessedly Catholic by the Grace of God.

Down here in the south, the Catholics are mainly republican, while the Protestants are mainly Democrats, with the exception of the Mormons, who are republican too.

[Tampa Dave]

Originally Posted by BListon

Down here in the south, the Catholics are mainly republican, while the Protestants are mainly Democrats, with the exception of the Mormons, who are republican too.

I vacationed at Snowbird in Utah, the reddest state in the Union. I thought I was in heaven on Earth. Mormons are very conservative. I just went to a BBQ with a Mormon who is taking a work sabbatical to run Romney's Massachusetts campaign (lots of luck in MA!).

[Tampa Dave]

One bite of a Chick-fil-A sandwich and Rahm will back off.