Derogatory term as question for contest???

gelsbern · #1 Mar 7, '06, 4:58 pm

I fail to understand how the derogatory term "Black Pope" in regards to the leader of the Society of Jesus can possibly fit in with apologetics. I notice that you never asked about "Mackerel Snappers", or "Crossbacks".

I think the woman who you asked the question to did not get a fair shake, as "Black Pope" is not a common term and is derogatory in nature and I think it would be well for such a term to never be used by catholics.

coyote · #2 Mar 7, '06, 10:05 pm

gelsbern

Can you give some background and a link to what you are referring to here. I am completely in the dark.

gelsbern · #3 Apr 10, '06, 10:26 pm

It was the March 4th be an apologist contest.

http://www.catholic.com/audio/2006/MP3/ca060306a.mp3

Contestant Marie or Maria at about 27 minutes 9 seconds into the contest the question was "What does the term "Black Pope refer to?" A. A popular icon that has been blackened by smoke. B. Is it a term for the leader of the Jesuits C. A medieval pope who broke tradition wearing a black cassock instead of a white one.

The answer that was given was B. which is actually a derogatory term for the leader of the Jesuits and it only was used in reference to very few of the leaders in the history of the Jesuits and was a termed coined by PROTESTANTS. Jimmy referred to Darth Vader music but out of charity I am giving him the benefit of the doubt in not thinking that it was not an uncharitable slam against the leader of the Jesuits. I have a hard time thinking that someone would be required to know derogatory terms in order to be an apologist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Pope

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14103a.htm

yinekka · #4 Sep 8, '06, 10:40 pm

"What does the term "Black Pope refer to?" A. A popular icon that has been blackened by smoke. B. Is it a term for the leader of the Jesuits C. A medieval pope who broke tradition wearing a black cassock instead of a white one.

I think that the question is quite suitable. If one was an apologist and someone referred to the 'black pope' it would be useful to know what the person was talking about.

John28 · #5 Sep 14, '06, 2:26 pm

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Originally Posted by yinekka

"What does the term "Black Pope refer to?" A. A popular icon that has been blackened by smoke. B. Is it a term for the leader of the Jesuits C. A medieval pope who broke tradition wearing a black cassock instead of a white one.

I think that the question is quite suitable. If one was an apologist and someone referred to the 'black pope' it would be useful to know what the person was talking about.

I agree, an apologist should be able to address the good as well as the bad. It probably should have been explained during the show that this was a derogatory expression so as not to be confused with something like the Black Madonna.