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Old Sep 6, '06, 11:24 pm
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With the construction of a new Parish Hall, the Building Committee of my Parish has just asked Parishioners to submit suggestions of how the new Adoration Room should look like.

Personally I was thinking of submitting something more like an Adoration Chapel (complete with small alter and tabernacle). Something out of the Apocalypse according to St John, I think would be extremely beautiful. Angels & Saints adoring the Lamb of God.

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Old Sep 6, '06, 11:44 pm
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Make it simple. I guess what is important is the monstrance. I prefer less images so that eyes will be focused on the blessed sacrament.. A lving flame is a must.. Dim light with light focusing the Blessed Sacrament..
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Old Sep 6, '06, 11:54 pm
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Personally, I thought it would be a good idea to have a simple carvings of an angel in humble adoration of the Blessed Sacrament when the 'doors' of the tabernacle are open. Above the tabernacle would be a sizable crucifix.

The tabernacle itself would be large enough to accommodate the monstrance, and would be on a simple stone altar. The front of the altar would be carved with "Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the Sins of the World". At the lower portion would be an image of a Lamb bound and ready to be sacrificed.

Would it be too elaborate?
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Old Sep 7, '06, 12:16 am
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With the construction of a new Parish Hall, the Building Committee of my Parish has just asked Parishioners to submit suggestions of how the new Adoration Room should look like.

Personally I was thinking of submitting something more like an Adoration Chapel (complete with small alter and tabernacle). Something out of the Apocalypse according to St John, I think would be extremely beautiful. Angels & Saints adoring the Lamb of God.

Thought? Suggestions?
The adoration Chapel sounds good, i would suggest the altar being against the wall with an ornate tabernacle.

Also, there is nothing wrong with the chapel itself being ornate, think about it, it is a resing place for Our Lord himself, he is our King, he deserves as much beauty as we could possibly offer.

Make sure certain Modernists in your parish dont get a hold of the project, if they do, there is no telling what monstrosity they will come up with. Remember, traiditional architecture is timeless.

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Make sure certain Modernists in your parish dont get a hold of the project, if they do, there is no telling what monstrosity they will come up with. Remember, traiditional architecture is timeless.
This actually raises an interesting question. While I'm the first to agree that I have a preference for traditional architecture, the Catholic Church has always embraced new and trendsetting architecture. Remember, Gothic and Baroque were both radical at one time! Much modern church architecture is bland and not very inspiring, but surely there are those occasional architects that create modern churches that are indeed wonderful. The still incomplete Sagrada Familia in Barcelona could stand as testament to this. So, my question is, can anyone cite some examples, or better yet, post some links to pictures, of beautiful, inspiring, modernist churches?
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This actually raises an interesting question. While I'm the first to agree that I have a preference for traditional architecture, the Catholic Church has always embraced new and trendsetting architecture. Remember, Gothic and Baroque were both radical at one time! Much modern church architecture is bland and not very inspiring, but surely there are those occasional architects that create modern churches that are indeed wonderful. The still incomplete Sagrada Familia in Barcelona could stand as testament to this. So, my question is, can anyone cite some examples, or better yet, post some links to pictures, of beautiful, inspiring, modernist churches?
The Church Building itself of my Parish was built just after VCII, but since where I am is a good distance away from the chaos that erupted, things were still quite shielded for a time. Internally we still have a huge and proper crucifix, the tabernacle is smack in the centre, the chair of the presider is way off to the side and there still is a side altar. And now with our new air-con units installed, the incense used just lingers and moves with the air currents. We still have our communion rails and was about the last Parish in the Diocese to stop using it.

Externally is a bit of a different story. Gone is the Gothic and Baroque style. In comes the Old Testament imagery of the tent where the ark of the covenent was 'stored' before the Temple was built. And well its a National Landmark.
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The adoration Chapel sounds good, i would suggest the altar being against the wall with an ornate tabernacle.
Yep the altar against the wall is exactly what I have in mind Yet I was thinking of bringing tradition yet keeping it simple.

Another thought I have is having the Pangue Lingua engraved on the door, and when you enter you look straight at the Tantum Ergo.
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Obviously, if the chapel will also be used for daily/intimate Masses, there are certain requirements that must be followed and they drive the process. However, if it to be only an Adoration Room, simplicity is acceptable with certain minimum requirements including:

Place to properly display the Eucharist. This can be a table for a Monstrance or Tabernacle. I know of several that have Tabernacles that have little doors that open and close such that the person can open the doors that display the Eucharist when they are there and close them upon leaving to facilitate sporadic/non-perpetual adoration.

A candle that gives notice of the presence of the Eucharist in the room. If you have the "doored Tabernacle", you should have additional candles that are lit prior to opening the doors and extinguished after closing the doors.

Appropriate kneelers for the worshippers.

If the room is small and intimate, IMHO there should be minimal subordinate decorations as in Sacred Art or statues of the saints or Blessed Mother. I don't know how appropriate it would be for people to come to the room for a Marian devotion when they ahve the ability to expose Christ.
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http://www.peteandsue.force9.co.uk/images/barn.jpg

If you look at the picture on the right in the above link, this is the Blessed Sacrament chapel in the Cathedral i go to. Origionally it was just a side chapel i believe, however, when they wreckovated the place in the 70's, and destoryed the high Altar, the tabernacle was moved into the chapel. The chapel has always been ornate and beautifully decorated like that, its the only thing the wreckovators didnt touch. Thank God.

This is the kind of thing i was trying to suggest.
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Obviously, if the chapel will also be used for daily/intimate Masses, there are certain requirements that must be followed and they drive the process. However, if it to be only an Adoration Room, simplicity is acceptable with certain minimum requirements including:

Place to properly display the Eucharist. This can be a table for a Monstrance or Tabernacle. I know of several that have Tabernacles that have little doors that open and close such that the person can open the doors that display the Eucharist when they are there and close them upon leaving to facilitate sporadic/non-perpetual adoration.

A candle that gives notice of the presence of the Eucharist in the room. If you have the "doored Tabernacle", you should have additional candles that are lit prior to opening the doors and extinguished after closing the doors.

Appropriate kneelers for the worshippers.

If the room is small and intimate, IMHO there should be minimal subordinate decorations as in Sacred Art or statues of the saints or Blessed Mother. I don't know how appropriate it would be for people to come to the room for a Marian devotion when they ahve the ability to expose Christ.
In the old adoration room there was only a single kneeler that was hardly used. The floor was carpeted however and cushions were in abundance.

As daily Mass is celebrated at the side altar of the Church, but it may get used for smaller gatherings.

Hmm...I was thinking of just having 3 icons hung on the wall at the rear. That of Blessed Damien of Molokia, one of the BVM and that of Blessed Estaqui van Lieshout. (My parish is run by SSCC Priests).
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Beautiful! Yet I think there would be problems to push something like that through because most people in my parish are rather poor and opulence is an issue that can get pretty sensitive.
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Personally, I thought it would be a good idea to have a simple carvings of an angel in humble adoration of the Blessed Sacrament when the 'doors' of the tabernacle are open. Above the tabernacle would be a sizable crucifix.

The tabernacle itself would be large enough to accommodate the monstrance, and would be on a simple stone altar. The front of the altar would be carved with "Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the Sins of the World". At the lower portion would be an image of a Lamb bound and ready to be sacrificed.

Would it be too elaborate?
I like that description. Sounds amazing!
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Beautiful! Yet I think there would be problems to push something like that through because most people in my parish are rather poor and opulence is an issue that can get pretty sensitive.
I've been in a couple of beautiful, but not as beautiful as Nick's, chapels in Oregon (St. Francis in Sherwood and St. Joseph in Salem). No pictures of St. Francis' chapel, but here's a link to St. Joseph http://www.stjosephchurch.com/ - just scroll down a little bit. They have stained glass and a small table with the monstrance. St. Francis has a small alter for the monstrance with the tabernacle behind it. Both have pews with kneelers and a bookshelf in the back corner with reading material for contemplation. I used to like to stay for an hour, pray the rosary, read, etc.

I think you are on the right track. I don't know how necessary it is in your parish's design, but most of the Adoration Chapels I have visited have some sort of security, usually a lockbox for a key or a lock requiring a security code. This is obviously to prevent some hateful person from abusing our Lord. It's not foolproof, but at least it gives some protection.

I can remember the night of crisis when I sought out an Adoration Chapel at 2AM and found the lockbox... I tried several combinations, and it was...BVM. I'm sure she helped me figure that out.

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The general concept I have would be from here...



Minus the status of the BVM at the front and replace it with an icon hanging at the back. Minus the pews and the statues. Add a stone altar flushed to the wall.
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This is what Eucharistic Adoration looks like in a very progressive diocese. I think it looks wonderful -- the focus is on Jesus Christ as it should be.

The ostensorium is a four-piece silver set consisting of two flanking candleholders, the tabor and the monstrance itself. The candleholders are in the form of 6-winged seraph angels. Three more seraphim kneel in homage around the Lamb of God, centered on the tabor. The Passover Lamb rests on a book, the inspired word of God, with seven seals representing the sacraments as avenues of God’s grace in the world.
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