alternative energy club

[Jasny]

I would like to open this tread as a place to discuss alternative energy. I would like it to be place of like minded people exploring alternative energies, like electric cars, wind power, solar energy, magnetic energy.... etc..
It seems this spher has been taken over by New Agers but it shouldn't be that way. Catholics should be more interested in bettering our enviroment as good stewards and love of neighbour.

PLEASE NO NAY SAYERS I would only like positive information exchange.

here my first thing to get things started. It is a Google video "It Runs on Water":http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...on+water&hl=en

[WanderAimlessly]

I actually did a poll on this a little while back. Here is the link:

Which Alternative Energy Sources

I was kind of surprisec by the results.

PF

[Jasny]

Originally Posted by WanderAimlessly

I actually did a poll on this a little while back. Here is the link:

Which Alternative Energy Sources

I was kind of surprisec by the results.

PF

thanks for the info. !!
It reminded me.
Please No Nuclear Power opptions that would just swallow the thread

[WanderAimlessly]

Originally Posted by Jasny

thanks for the info. !!
It reminded me.
Please No Nuclear Power opptions that would just swallow the thread

I would have to disagree since Nuclear is a viable option. In fact, France is one of the biggest users of nuclear power.

And yes, I am pro nuclear

PF

[Jasny]

Washington Post
Customers Pony Up for Renewable Energy

MINNEAPOLIS -- The Rev. Francis Galles lives on a retired priest's income, but he doesn't mind paying an extra 60 bucks a year to make sure some of the energy he uses comes from the wind turbines churning across southern Minnesota. "It's not much. I'd pay more," he said.

Galles is part of a small but growing group of consumers who, despite an era of high energy costs, are willing to pay a premium to support renewable energy.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072900398.html

[Jasny]

Originally Posted by WanderAimlessly

I would have to disagree since Nuclear is a viable option. In fact, France is one of the biggest users of nuclear power.

And yes, I am pro nuclear

PF

you can be pro nuclear but I dont want this thread to deal with that. There maybe other energy opptions that can be explored and can be viable too.

[Bwavenit]

Just finished installing a solar attic fan.modified an old dish bracket.it just hums along as long as the suns on it.

pro nuclear: i want my" Mr. Fusion".

more research needs be done on the long term storage though.
Hydrogen would be ok,once they get the effiency up.
right now fossil fuels have the biggest bang for the buck.
cold fusion and zero point energy seem to be running neck and neck for last place.
space based power systems seem to be gaining
viability,along with wave or current powered generators.

[Jasny]

For many years the Steorn company has developed technology to help combat counterfeiting and fraud in the plastic card and optical disc industries.

In 2003 Steorn undertook a project to develop more efficient micro generators. Early into this project the company developed certain generator configurations that appeared to be over 100% efficient. Further investigation and development has led to the company's present all-magnet motor technology which produces free energy. The technology is patent pending.
After three years of try to have scientist test their generator with no success
Steorn decided to publish their challenge in The Economist because of the breadth of its readership. "We chose it over a purely scientific magazine simply because we want to make the general public aware that this process is about to commence and to generate public support, awareness, interest etc for what we are doing."


http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/vi...erview,00.html

[Bwavenit]

Originally Posted by Jasny

For many years the Steorn company has developed technology to help combat counterfeiting and fraud in the plastic card and optical disc industries.

In 2003 Steorn undertook a project to develop more efficient micro generators. Early into this project the company developed certain generator configurations that appeared to be over 100% efficient. Further investigation and development has led to the company's present all-magnet motor technology which produces free energy. The technology is patent pending.
After three years of try to have scientist test their generator with no success
Steorn decided to publish their challenge in The Economist because of the breadth of its readership. "We chose it over a purely scientific magazine simply because we want to make the general public aware that this process is about to commence and to generate public support, awareness, interest etc for what we are doing."


http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/vi...erview,00.html

Interesting. I hope it pans out. it would be great to have new energy source.

[Jasny]

Originally Posted by Bwavenit

Interesting. I hope it pans out. it would be great to have new energy source.

It isnt really anything new see below:

New York Times (Wednesday, March 7, 1928)
Priest Has Motor Run By 'Ion Energy'
Jesuit Inventor From Brazil Is Here To market Product, Now Undergoing Patent Tests ~ Not A Fuelless Machine ~ "Inter-Atomic" Force Increases Electric Battery power, He Says -- Discounts Hendershot Claims
An Italian Jesuit priest from Brazil announced here yesterday that he had invented a motor that makes use of "interatomic" energy to generate many times the power it receives originally from an electric battery. The motor is now at Washington, where it is undergoing the Patent Office investigation.

The priest is the Rev. Antonio d’Angelo, S.J., a stocky, earnest little man who combines missionary work in Brazil with tinkering in his own electrical laboratory. He speaks no English, but told of his machine through his brother, Biagio d’Angelo of 1475 LeLand Ave., the Bronx.

Father d’Angelo became interested in electricity 20 years ago when he was a student at a Jesuit seminary in Naples. A year and a half ago he was sent out by his Order to Brazil to carry on missionary work at Ribeirao Preto among the Italian emigrants. He had to get a special dispensation from Bishop Alberto Gonzales of Ribeirao Preto to visit the United States where, so his brother had written him, fortune comes more easily to the man with a money-saving device. He came here in November 1927, and has urged his Bishop to extend his leave of six months.

His motor, he said, could be used in the home to supply electric lighting cheaply, and even heating. He said that it could be used to run trains, airplanes and automobiles.

Father d’Angelo had a plan of his motor with him yesterday. He showed how it started to develop energy from an electric battery, and how this original impulse worked on the machine to generate many time its power through the "electricity produced by the inter-atomic energy of the ions".

[Jasny]

Engineair’s Ultra-Efficient Rotary Compressed-Air Motor

Elegant minimalist design eliminates most of the working parts traditionally associated with internal combustion engine; offers close to 100% energy efficiency for a variety of transport and stationary applications.




For more info:
http://www.engineair.com.au

[Jasny]

Geoplasma, LLC

http://www.geoplasma.com
Company's technology converts landfills into electricity and roads, by vaporizing garbage at temperatures hotter than parts of the sun. Lightning-like plasma arcs turn trash into gas and rock-like material

[Jasny]

experiment those who are curious tinkers try this:
"Fueless Furnace" Uses Friction to Heat Average Size Home for "50 Cents a Day"
Eugene Frenette pours hydraulic oil into his prototype "fuelless furnace". The oil, combined with the spinning action of two cylinders, supposedly creates friction which in turn, produces the heat.

"It all started during the winter of 1977-78. It was costing Frenette, father of 12 children --- 10 of whom are still at home --- a whopping $230 a month to buy fuel oil to heat his huge, old uninsulated 12 room "Pillsbury mansion" in Londonderry, New Hampshire.
Frenette installed his prototype friction heater in a 10-year-old washing machine. It's made up of two cylinders spinning in opposite directions. There is a clearance of 1/8 in. between the two cylinders which are lubricated by a quart of light motor oil. Spinning action of the cylinders and resulting friction produces the heat, according to Frenette.
Estimated operating cost to heat an average size, well insulated home with a 200,000 btu friction "centric" heater is right at $15 a month (for electricity to operate the motor).

details can be found:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...&RS=PN/4143639



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[I Leatherman]

Northern europeans are building houses with insulation in mind including stuff like triple glazing and perfectly sealed airtight attics/lofts, and other stuff I can't remember.
One ordinary ceiling light bulb provides enough heat to keep a room warm in winter.

[Jasny]

kool thanks for posting do you have any more details?