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Old Oct 20, '06, 7:30 am
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Macleans, a Canadian newsweekly has a cover story this week on the fact that Islam is slowly taking over the world. It was very impressive because it stuck to simple demography as the basis for this line of thought. The writer basically said that it is a matter of time before the West is under the influence of Islam. He cites the fact that the West is pretty much "barren and aging" while Muslims are fruitful and young. The statistics are pretty eye-opening. He spoke of the fact that radical Muslims in the West take advantage of the West's tolerance to skew things to their liking. The article mentioned how a patron saint in a city in Spain was changed to one who was less offensive to Muslims. He mentioned how in Denmark I believe there is a call by clerics to force all women professors regardless of religion to wear headcoverings. He talks about how the west is living in a post-Christian era and that things have gotten bad since this happened. I imagine the magazine is going to get lots of criticism for having such a cover story which some may say is fear-mongering about the take-over of Islam and is not being very "tolerant". I for one am surprised they printed it but am glad they did. Did anyone else see it? If so, what are your thoughts?

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Old Oct 20, '06, 9:49 am
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The gates of hell will not prevail against God's Church! Neither will Islam.
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Regardless of what becomes of this world, I will continue to worship my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, even if I am condemned for doing so.

I really hope the Islam statistics do not foreshadow the future though, as I pray the world will live in truth, and follow the word of Jesus.
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The anti-Christian bias in the news and entertainment media of USA, which is the media outlet for much of the world, is helps to create a gaping spiritual hole in the souls of those who buy into it. That hole must be filled. Islam is ready to jump in.

Islam is so violent that the news media are fearful of offending them. Don't believe me, just look at the reactions to the Danish caricatures and political cartoons of Mohamed last year and contrast that with the reaction to the sexually explicit cartoons of Christ published in an Oregon newspaper.

The former resulted in worldwide protests which lasted for months, embargos against Danish goods in some Arab countries like Iran and even deaths. On the other hand, the cartoons from Oregon, published in a University of Oregon Student Newspaper resulted in some outraged emails to the university president, and a couple of predictable editorials about how terrible the "religious right" is.

This fear is one factor which inhibits the agnostics and atheists in the media from being as unkind to Islam as they are to Christianity.

Islamic theology says an evil act with a good intention is permissible. The Islamic view that faith and reason are utterly separate and irreconcilable means that religious thinking does not need to be guided by logic; that is God does not act with accord to nature. Finally, Moslems are slaves of Allah with little intrinsic value and must submit. ("Islam" literally means "submission".) Only infidels have a lower state. Since slaves must submit, forced or coerced conversion to Islam is permissible.

Christian theology, on the other says an evil act, even with a good intention is still just as evil and cannot be justified. Faith and reason are partners and support one another. Finally, as Christians, we are adopted children of God. Those who do not share a belief in Christ are to be encouraged, but conversion must be from the heart and thus can never be coerced.

These fundamental differences with Christian theology obviously affect the way in which followers behave. Christianity has a view that everything is connected; faith, logic, morals, and behavior. Islam compartmentalizes the world with unbreachable walls separating faith and logic, morals and behavior. A Christian, as a child of God, has much dignity. All individuals are of infinite value thus Christians are to treat people with equal dignity and humanity, no matter what their state.

Islam's compartmentalization plays well, on the surface, to the anti-Christian bias in the media. Unfortunately, the very people who keep yelling the mantra of "celebrate diversity", "Islam is a religion of peace", and "Coexist", will be the second ones pushed up against the wall and shot (or beheaded), right after the Christians.

If Islam gains pre-eminence in the West, the world will enter a very dark time.

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Unfortunately, the very people who keep yelling the mantra of "celebrate diversity", "Islam is a religion of peace", and "Coexist", will be the second ones pushed up against the wall and shot (or beheaded), right after the Christians.

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You are totally right about this. I think that's why in Europe now there seems to be some alarm ringing even from the left who are feeling a bit nervous by the influence of radical Islam in their countries. By the way, it turns out you can read the article if you just click on the cover picture. It's worth a read because we should all know the realities about the immense size of the Muslim population and the fact that the vast majority of them live outside of the Middle East.
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Regardless of what becomes of this world, I will continue to worship my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, even if I am condemned for doing so.

I really hope the Islam statistics do not foreshadow the future though, as I pray the world will live in truth, and follow the word of Jesus.
I am right there with Bins.

"As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." (Joshua 25:15) This was true in 1500 BC and is still true today.
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Macleans, a Canadian newsweekly has a cover story this week on the fact that Islam is slowly taking over the world. It was very impressive because it stuck to simple demography as the basis for this line of thought. The writer basically said that it is a matter of time before the West is under the influence of Islam. He cites the fact that the West is pretty much "barren and aging" while Muslims are fruitful and young. The statistics are pretty eye-opening. He spoke of the fact that radical Muslims in the West take advantage of the West's tolerance to skew things to their liking. The article mentioned how a patron saint in a city in Spain was changed to one who was less offensive to Muslims. He mentioned how in Denmark I believe there is a call by clerics to force all women professors regardless of religion to wear headcoverings. He talks about how the west is living in a post-Christian era and that things have gotten bad since this happened. I imagine the magazine is going to get lots of criticism for having such a cover story which some may say is fear-mongering about the take-over of Islam and is not being very "tolerant". I for one am surprised they printed it but am glad they did. Did anyone else see it? If so, what are your thoughts?

You have to be a subscriber to read the article but here's a link to the cover picture which is required for this topic to be posted.

http://www.macleans.ca
This is a good article! Especially in the area of birth rates around the world.
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Greece has a fertility rate hovering just below 1.3 births per couple, which is what demographers call the point of "lowest-low" fertility from which no human society has ever recovered. And Greece's fertility is the healthiest in Mediterranean Europe: Italy has a fertility rate of 1.2, Spain 1.1. Insofar as any citizens of the developed world have "big" families these days, it's the anglo democracies: America's fertility rate is 2.1, New Zealand a little below....

... by 2050, 60 per cent of Italians will have no brothers, no sisters, no cousins, no aunts, no uncles. The big Italian family, with papa pouring the vino and mama spooning out the pasta down an endless table of grandparents and nieces and nephews, will be gone, no more, dead as the dinosaurs. As Noel Coward once remarked in another context, "Funiculi, funicula, funic yourself." By mid-century, Italians will have no choice in the matter.

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Mark Stein recently wrote a book called "America Alone: The End Of The World As We Know It". In it there are lines like:

"In their bizarre prioritization of a 'woman's right to choose', feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their days in a culture that doesn't accord women the right to choose anything."

And another: "So we have a global terrorist movement insulated within a global political project insulated within a severely self-segregating religion whose adherents are the fastest-growing demographic in the developed world. The jihad thus has a very potent brand inside a highly dispersed and very decentralized network much more efficient than anything the CIA can muster."
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The gates of hell will not prevail against God's Church! Neither will Islam.
Have you ever heard the story about the drowning man, the rescue boat, and St Peter?

"Not prevail against..."...what does it mean? I'm sure that many priests quoted it over the centuries as their congregations were slaughtered by Vikings, Moors, Turks, Cromwell, etc. I don't believe God means for us be complacent about a threat to the Church and its underlying culture.
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I've heard this one told a number of ways:

A United States Marine was attending some college courses between assignments. He had completed missions in Iraq. One of the courses had a professor who was an avowed atheist.

One day the professor shocked the class when he came in. He looked to the ceiling and flatly stated, "God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes."

The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop.
Ten minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, "Here I am God. I'm still waiting."

It got down to the last couple of minutes when the Marine got out of his chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him, knocking him off the platform. The professor was out cold. The Marine went back to his seat and sat there, silently. The other students were shocked and stunned and sat there looking on in silence. The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the Marine and asked, "What the hell is the matter with you? Why did you do that?"

The Marine calmly replied, "God was too busy today protecting America's troops who are protecting your right to say stupid things and act like an idiot. .................So, He sent me."
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Islam is falling apart as we speak. It's base of countries like Iran all live in antiquity. Eventualy they will become free nations. Freedom is what kills Islam and it's cult like power of fear. So called 'moderate Islam' is nothing more then back sliden Islam. When it back slides far enough it will collapse. Christianity on the other hand does just fine in free countries. It's only a matter of time. The majority of Islam is embracing more liberal philosophy. The extremist are a bit worried given there actions of late

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Islam is falling apart as we speak. It's base of countries like Iran all live in antiquity. Eventualy they will become free nations. Freedom is what kills Islam and it's cult like power of fear. So called 'moderate Islam' is nothing more then back sliden Islam. When it back slides far enough it will collapse. Christianity on the other hand does just fine in free countries. It's only a matter of time. The majority of Islam is embracing more liberal philosophy. The extremist are a bit worried given there actions of late

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I hope and pray that you are right.
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