Indiana girl tied to largest measles outbreak in decade

gam197 · #1 Jan 1, '07, 8:38 am

I may be too sensitive but then I have to wonder when I see an article that says one "Christian" individual caused the measles outbreak in the US.

It also states that it happened because parents didn't vaccinate their children.

Maybe if they would produce a vaccine like Japan's which is not tainted with an aborted fetus line, people would be more inclined to vaccinate. There is no mention of why they chose not to vaccinate. This article also comes at a time when they are pushing legislation for the HPV vaccine.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1756999/posts

Karin · #2 Jan 1, '07, 8:43 am

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Originally Posted by gam197

I may be too sensitive but then I have to wonder when I see an article that says one "Christian" individual caused the measles outbreak in the US.

It also states that it happened because parents didn't vaccinate their children.

Maybe if they would produce a vaccine like Japan's which is not tainted with an aborted fetus line, people would be more inclined to vaccinate. There is no mention of why they chose not to vaccinate. This article also comes at a time when they are pushing legislation for the HPV vaccine.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1756999/posts

regardless of the situation it is a sad outcome especially in this day and age when these things could be prevented

gam197 · #3 Jan 1, '07, 9:09 am

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regardless of the situation it is a sad outcome especially in this day and age when these things could be prevented

There is alot of controversy over whether there is a relationship between the vaccine and the outbreak of Autism so parents are having a difficult time. Many parents are not aware they can get the shots separately.

They also could have clarified what type of measles as Rubella is the only one tainted. The Chicken pox vaccine is also tainted.

Karianne · #4 Jan 1, '07, 9:15 am

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Originally Posted by gam197

There is alot of controversy over whether there is a relationship between the vaccine and the outbreak of Autism so parents are having a difficult time. Many parents are not aware they can get the shots separately.

They also could have clarified what type of measles as Rubella is the only one tainted. The Chicken pox vaccine is also tainted.

Right, my sister had the doctor give her child half of the shot at a time.
But it was a risk.

Karin · #5 Jan 1, '07, 9:18 am

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Originally Posted by gam197

There is alot of controversy over whether there is a relationship between the vaccine and the outbreak of Autism so parents are having a difficult time.

I do vaguely recall this debate....last I heard Autism was diagnosed at about the same age as the MMR was given that is why they thoguht MMR caused Austism...I think it has been proved that the MMR does not cause it...

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Many parents are not aware they can get the shots separately.

yes this is true...more of a hassle for the docs I think but they should offer it...three seperate shots instead of all three in one shot.

gam197 · #6 Jan 1, '07, 9:27 am

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originally posted by Karin
I think it has been proved that the MMR does not cause it.

I haven't seen that. Could you post?

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originally posted by Karianne
Right, my sister had the doctor give her child half of the shot at a time.
But it was a risk.

I had separate shots done for a toddler and it was not a problem at all. What is the risk? Rubella is only serious to pregnant women not to the person infected.

If Japan can produce an untainted vaccine, why can't the USA?

Karin · #7 Jan 1, '07, 9:32 am

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I haven't seen that. Could you post?

Does the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine cause autism?

Current scientific evidence does not support the hypothesis that measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, or any combination of vaccines, causes the development of autism, including regressive forms of autism. The question about a possible link between MMR vaccine and autism has been extensively reviewed by independent groups of experts in the U.S. including the National Academy of Sciences, Institute of Medicine. These reviews have concluded that the available epidemiologic evidence does not support a causal link between MMR vaccine and autism.

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce...tism-mmr.htm#2

Karin · #8 Jan 1, '07, 9:33 am

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I haven't seen that. Could you post?

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce...m-research.htm

Karin · #9 Jan 1, '07, 9:34 am

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Originally Posted by gam197

IIf Japan can produce an untainted vaccine, why can't the USA?

Probably has something to do with $$$$

gam197 · #10 Jan 1, '07, 9:45 am

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The federal health agency said the girl should have been given two doses of a measles vaccine before leaving the country. The CDC said the outbreak could have been prevented if everyone involved had been properly vaccinated.

Karin,

The articles you posted are from the Center for Disease Control. The article that I posted is also about the Center for Disease Control as they are the ones promoting that everyone should be vaccinated.

Many parents have autistic children and there is a real concern that these rates are up. They don't believe the CDC is being honest.

Karin · #11 Jan 1, '07, 9:49 am

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Karin,

The articles you posted are from the Center for Disease Control.

yes

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The article that I posted is also about the Center for Disease Control as they are the ones promoting that everyone should be vaccinated.

well they are the Centers for Diease Control...I would think that they are promoting vaccinations for all for a reason.

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Many parents have autistic children and there is a real concern that these rates are up. They don't believe the CDC is being honest.

sorry to hear that...but I have given my kids the single MMR shot and it has not effected them...meaning no autism.

also...here is some further reading for ya...
Autism rises despite MMR ban in Japan

http://www.mmrthefacts.nhs.uk/library/studies.php has some more articles...

I do not look or reasearch this topic too often as it really does not effect me and I do believe what the CDC has to say along with other groups.

Karin · #12 Jan 1, '07, 9:55 am

perhaps the rates of autism are up becuase it just is being diagnoseed more often now....

There is no known single cause for autism, but it is generally accepted that it is caused by abnormalities in brain structure or function...<snip>...
Whatever the cause, it is clear that children with autism and PDD are born with the disorder or born with the potential to develop it.
http://www.autism-society.org/site/P..._whatis_causes

gam197 · #13 Jan 1, '07, 10:10 am

In Japan, they went to separate shots because they were concerned with the mumps not Rubella. This doesn't mean that people are still not getting all the shots separately including Rubella.

I thought that Rubella was untainted in Japan but I need to verify that. It seems they just went to separate shots in 1993.

Even without MMR, measles are not up in Japan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/1808316.stm

gam197 · #14 Jan 1, '07, 10:18 am

I know of a number of children with Autism and when I spoke to their parents, they blame the shots and are involved in a group opposed to the MMR.

The parents didn't even know that Rubella was made from an aborted fetus cell line until I mentioned it. That is not why this particular group is opposed to it.

I agree that they could get some of the shots and I have mentioned that there are separate shots available but these parents have lost trust.

Karin · #15 Jan 1, '07, 10:20 am

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Even without MMR, measles are not up in Japan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/1808316.stm

nope but as the article I linked too shows autism is still on the rise in Japan
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7076