Save America, Make Babies

Mirror Mirror · #1 Mar 9, '07, 8:26 am

Just curious to see what other's opinion is of the following new clip seen on FoxNews...

http://search2.foxnews.com/search?ac...0Make%20Babies

**1ke** · #2 Mar 9, '07, 10:43 am

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Originally Posted by Mirror Mirror

Just curious to see what other's opinion is of the following new clip seen on FoxNews...

http://search2.foxnews.com/search?ac...0Make%20Babies

The rapid depopulation of the West is a major crisis that is ignored by politicians and policymakers, but economists and people of faith know it spells doom on many fronts.

This is an extremely serious issue, and it is exactly this that toppled the Roman Empire. Contraception, abortion, and infanticide along with loose morals and indifference prevailed, the population declined, they brought in foreign peoples to populate the army and services, and eventually they were overrun and defeated.

Should have been a lesson to the world, but you know what they say about history... it repeats itself.

athanasiusrc · #3 Mar 9, '07, 12:49 pm

I see three possible scenarios:

1) Liberals will eventually have to institute a police state to make sure that the wacky Christians who are reproducing can't influence public policy. Eventually the lack of people will reduce the West into something that the Muslims or Chinese can just walk in and take.

2) There won't be a police state because war will ensue between the West and either the Chinese or the Muslims before the Liberals have enough power to create one. If it's a war with China, the West will be forced to use nuclear weapons to win because of China's superior numbers. If it's with the Muslims, it will just be another stage in the 1500+ year war that has already been going on with no side clearly winning.

3) There will be a religious revival in America that will save America through population growth and an evangelizing spirit that reconverts the West. There will probably still be a major world war unless a prophet the likes of Cyril and Methodias arises and converts the Muslim world.

I'm not terribly optimistic about the future of the world not including another major world war and after seeing the various anti-religious, anti-free speech laws passed throughout Europe and even in America lately, I also don't hold out much help for maintaining a republic in America for much longer.

ktp · #4 Mar 9, '07, 1:22 pm

I've been hearing this for a long time. I think he has valid points, but will be denounced as a 'racist' or 'hatemonger.' People will hear the word Moslem, not the words 'Sharia Law,' and play the 'race card' of 'he hates Moslems,' (although funny how the same people never mind hatred against Christians, but that's a different post

) and refuse to face the fact that it is not Moslems, but the Sharia Law, which is highly likely to be follow in the wake of Islam.

What are the good liberals going to do when it is the Moslems they defended against evil right-wing conservative Christians, who now want to take back women's rights and stone homosexuals?

frfreddie · #5 Mar 9, '07, 1:54 pm

I worry about the Christian population decline in France and Germany. Eventually, at least with the current trends, they will be taken over my Islam. These are countries with advanced nuclear weapons. The next battles in the 1500 year war might be extremely deadly.

I think I'm going to pray for the Muslems tonight.

Jay2 · #6 Mar 9, '07, 3:32 pm

There was a disgruntled house-painter who came to power only about 70 years ago that encouraged "healthy young women with proper traits" to reproduce as often as possible.... with men possessing similar traits.... and guess what - there was a birth-boom for nearly a decade!

The objective was to feed the machine with strong & perfect Aryan stock... oh yeah, the housepainter was Adolph Hitler.

Another tack... Look at the quality of life in the areas that were detailed in the report. "Making Babies" is about the only pleasurable thing to experience in that toilet of existance.... no wonder why the birthrate is skyrocketing.

athanasiusrc · #7 Mar 9, '07, 3:44 pm

So.... you're saying that encouraging population growth makes me akin to Hitler? I'm not sure that is what you are saying but it seems to be.

Any society that wants to survive can't have a death wish against its own. Looking at what other options there are if western civilization falls, the alternatives are far worse.

OutinChgoburbs · #8 Mar 9, '07, 4:08 pm

I would love to see more babies being born in the West, partiularly in the U.S.

In addition to more babies, there would be fewer children who felt they were owed the world because they are their parents' only child, or only one of that gender with one other sibling of the opposite gender. I see too many children, day in and day out, who really believe this. And THAT is what is going to cause downfall: For lack of a better term, adult babies.

Celeste88 · #9 Mar 9, '07, 9:24 pm

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I would love to see more babies being born in the West, partiularly in the U.S.

In addition to more babies, there would be fewer children who felt they were owed the world because they are their parents' only child, or only one of that gender with one other sibling of the opposite gender. I see too many children, day in and day out, who really believe this. And THAT is what is going to cause downfall: For lack of a better term, adult babies.

That's a grand idea, but are there going to be jobs in the US in the coming years for those babies? Do you realize the US economy is going down the toilet? This really worries me, because any child born today will probably have to work till he or she is 70 to collect Social security...if it still exists. That child will be stuck working at low paying customer service jobs and probably two of them to make ends meet. With all the jobs going overseas and Mexico I really fear for the future of our children. I'm not just blowing smoke, my husband worked for 16 years for a major company only to be laid off. I have plenty of friends and relatives in the same boat, and they are really struggling.

Meggie · #10 Mar 9, '07, 9:40 pm

I take it, then, that none of you have heard of the voulentary movement for human extinction?

athanasiusrc · #11 Mar 10, '07, 5:56 am

It is the drop in population that contributes to the economy going south. As fewer children are born, there are fewer people to purchase things and fewer people to open new businesses. Existing businesses are run by older and older people maing it more likely that the business will fold as the person looks to retire.

**1ke** · #12 Mar 10, '07, 7:17 am

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That's a grand idea, but are there going to be jobs in the US in the coming years for those babies? Do you realize the US economy is going down the toilet?

It's the declining population causing the weakened economy, not the other way around. The labor shortage is about to reach critical mass. As the population declines, the economy will continue to suffer at an ever increasing rate. Of course social security is suffering, because there are fewer people paying in to it. If the birth rates had not declined, there would be no issue with social security.

One only need look at the Roman Empire, and Europe during the plague in the 1400s, to see what may occur. It's pretty bleak.

**1ke** · #13 Mar 10, '07, 7:18 am

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I take it, then, that none of you have heard of the voulentary movement for human extinction?

Yes, I have heard of them. A bunch of secular humanist nut jobs.

Celeste88 · #14 Mar 10, '07, 9:02 am

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It's the declining population causing the weakened economy, not the other way around. The labor shortage is about to reach critical mass. As the population declines, the economy will continue to suffer at an ever increasing rate. Of course social security is suffering, because there are fewer people paying in to it. If the birth rates had not declined, there would be no issue with social security.

One only need look at the Roman Empire, and Europe during the plague in the 1400s, to see what may occur. It's pretty bleak.

The population of the United States is declining? It is changing, I'll grant you that, but we have been always a melting pot of nationalities. Even if you bring more Aryan type children into the population right now, it won't change the picture much. The manufactering jobs are going going gone. They are going because US corps can't compete with cheap foreign labor.

And as far as people purchasing more, look around you. People are buying more than ever. Everyone has two or more cars, cell phones, ipods, computers, etc. Stuff unheard off 50 years ago. We are a nation of gluttons and our credit cards are reflecting that. And small businesses are cropping up everywhere...but can you honestly make a living working at Starbucks?

**1ke** · #15 Mar 10, '07, 6:10 pm

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The population of the United States is declining?

Yes, the birth rate is in sharp decline and the population is aging. The US is in slightly better shape than most of the rest of the west due to continued immigration. But, that is not a solution.

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The Even if you bring more Aryan type children into the population right now, it won't change the picture much.

Yes, that is correct. However, I am not talking about "white Aryan type" children. I'm talking about *children* period. Within one to two generations, immigrants adopt the ways of this country and stop having babies.

The manufactering jobs are going going gone. They are going because US corps can't compete with cheap foreign labor.

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And as far as people purchasing more, look around you. People are buying more than ever.

It may seem that way, but economic indicators show otherwise.

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We are a nation of gluttons and our credit cards are reflecting that.

Yes, people are deficit spending.

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And small businesses are cropping up everywhere...but can you honestly make a living working at Starbucks?

Huh?