Is there Satanic subliminal messages in Popular Music? - Page 4

**JharekCarnelian** · #46 Apr 6, '11, 6:39 am

There's a particular version of the old Troggs song 'Wild Thing' done by Jimi Hendrix at Monterey Pop Festival in the late 60's. For some years in the late 1980's there was a brand of chocolate bar called Lion (which still are sold and are quite tasty actually) using this version on it's adverts which for years afterwards meant I couldn't hear the song without thinking of chocolate with caramel and puffed rice in it.

blackfirepro · #47 Apr 23, '11, 9:41 pm

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Originally Posted by childofmary1143

Has the Vatican or any top Church official confirm or deny that some popular music has Satanic subliminal messages?

Define "Satanic".

Laughing Crow · #48 Apr 24, '11, 4:36 am

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Originally Posted by blackfirepro

Define "Satanic".

Actually I think 'subliminal' is what we need defined as well. Do you mean 'underlying' messages? As actual subliminal messages, any subliminal messages, are illegal.

Monica4316 · #49 Apr 24, '11, 8:30 pm

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Originally Posted by napad

I wouldnt say that arousing passions in itself is wrong. That is pretty much what art is about. It is Satanic when it promotes things against natural and divine law with no qualifications.

No arousing passions is really dangerous.

Lost Wanderer · #50 Apr 24, '11, 9:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Monica4316

No arousing passions is really dangerous.

That would depend on your definition of 'passions'.

Blood Angel · #51 Apr 25, '11, 5:39 am

Maralyn Manson is a huge popular culture icon, that is directly connected with anti-religious or Satanic messages. However, I think Manson rocks and like some of his music.

Rolypoly · #52 Apr 25, '11, 6:45 pm

I think a lot of the type of music on MTV and on the radio uses metaphors in the videos and in the lyical content to communicate a double-meaning. The first meaning is blatantly obvious but the second meaning is slightly harder to percieve, but easy enough if you pay attention, and is Satanic in nature. I believe that this occurs in all genres of music - pop, metal, rap, even country (maybe not so much classical since there aren't lyrics). I don't think all songs have this problem but a significant portion of them do.

What I am still trying to figure out though is whether or not it is harmful to listen to and/or watch such songs and ignore the double-meaning.

**JharekCarnelian** · #53 Apr 26, '11, 6:20 am

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Originally Posted by Rolypoly

(maybe not so much classical since there aren't lyrics).

Classical music is full of pieces with lyrics. You are forgetting Opera.

Lost Wanderer · #54 Apr 26, '11, 3:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Rolypoly

I think a lot of the type of music on MTV and on the radio uses metaphors in the videos and in the lyical content to communicate a double-meaning. The first meaning is blatantly obvious but the second meaning is slightly harder to percieve, but easy enough if you pay attention, and is Satanic in nature. I believe that this occurs in all genres of music - pop, metal, rap, even country (maybe not so much classical since there aren't lyrics). I don't think all songs have this problem but a significant portion of them do.

What I am still trying to figure out though is whether or not it is harmful to listen to and/or watch such songs and ignore the double-meaning.

If you're going to analyze lyrics then I'm afraid your delving into the world of literary criticism dear (you are scrutinizing words with a poetic structure and all). With that said, such a world is where relativism is valid. Some would interpret one song to mean this, others see it as that. Some prefer the author's original intention, others say the author is irrelevant. In the end, who is right? Nobody really.

Laughing Crow · #55 Apr 29, '11, 11:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Lost Wanderer

If you're going to analyze lyrics then I'm afraid your delving into the world of literary criticism dear (you are scrutinizing words with a poetic structure and all). With that said, such a world is where relativism is valid. Some would interpret one song to mean this, others see it as that. Some prefer the author's original intention, others say the author is irrelevant. In the end, who is right? Nobody really.

Reminds me of an interview with Serj Tankian and Daron Malakian, singer and guitarist from System of a down. Someone asked wha they're songs meant and Serj replied "What do they mean to you?". Everyone takes songs meanings differently. A perfect example is Maralyn Manson's song "The Fight Song". The main chorus is:

But Im not a slave to a god that doesnt exist,
and im not a slave to a world that doesnt give a s***.

Most people automatically here that and think 'anti religon' but the verses allude to media censorship and how secular society listens to the news like its a religion and the media is their 'god'. Thats how I view it

, I even spoke to a Catholic I met about it and he admitted he had never thought of it that way, he still doesnt like Manson but I helped him see it from a point of view he may have never considered before.

celticsfan1983 · #56 May 4, '11, 8:43 pm

Of course there are Satanic subliminal messages in popular music. Heck, even when you least expect it, it's there! And in the most innocent of songs!

Take, for instance, Happy Birthday to you. Check out these words!

"Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear ________, Happy Birthday to you!"

I know what you're thinking. Just an innocent song to mark the passing of another year, right? Wrong!

Happy Birthday? We are born into a world of sin! Cursed with original sin, of course the devil wants us to be happy living apart from Christ. He loves it so much you REPEAT THE LINE! And to have a song that can be so blatantly applied to ANYONE? We're all made unique like snowflakes, to apply a song like this equally across the board to all of us is an afront to the unique, special qualities God gave to us!

So yes, there are Satanic messages in EVERYTHING!

#sarcasm

Random Dude · #57 May 5, '11, 2:41 am

Personally, I feel that the vast majority of popular music isn't Satanic. Certainly plenty of it glorifies sinful lifestyles, but that doesn't mean that it's Satanic. Even bands which may employ Satanic imagery in their cover art and shows (like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, or Black Sabbath) aren't actually Satanic in the sense that they worship Satan. If you want to avoid this music for reasons of personal taste or because you dislike the message, there's no problem with that, but I also don't think there's a problem with listening to this music as long as you aren't letting it influence you to sin.

illmatic · #58 May 5, '11, 4:42 am

No there are not satanic subliminal messages in popular music. Don't embarrass yourself. Next question!

mdrummer5 · #59 May 5, '11, 7:41 am

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Originally Posted by celticsfan1983

Of course there are Satanic subliminal messages in popular music. Heck, even when you least expect it, it's there! And in the most innocent of songs!

Take, for instance, Happy Birthday to you. Check out these words!

"Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear ________, Happy Birthday to you!"

I know what you're thinking. Just an innocent song to mark the passing of another year, right? Wrong!

Happy Birthday? We are born into a world of sin! Cursed with original sin, of course the devil wants us to be happy living apart from Christ. He loves it so much you REPEAT THE LINE! And to have a song that can be so blatantly applied to ANYONE? We're all made unique like snowflakes, to apply a song like this equally across the board to all of us is an afront to the unique, special qualities God gave to us!

So yes, there are Satanic messages in EVERYTHING!

#sarcasm

I'm never celebrating my birthday again!!!! lol

**Joe 5859** · #60 May 5, '11, 8:13 am

Hey, another resurrected "satanic music" thread. I guess we just can't stop talking about it.

Upfront, I will say that I think we absolutely need to be on guard against the ways that the devil (that master deceiver) tries to lure us away from Christ and into sin.

But to think that there are subliminal messages in all (or even most) popular music that could somehow lead an unsuspecting Christian to be unknowingly and involuntarily possessed and/or to fall into sin -- that's a bit far-fetched to me.

I love music and many song lyrics have touched me at different times in my life, but I have no false illusions about their quality. Much of it is gibberish without even a primary meaning let alone some super-secret subliminal secondary meaning. There's also a far bit of anti-Christian stuff out there and/or stuff that promotes values that are at odds with Catholic teaching. No doubt. I'm sure there's also a significant portion that was composed while the lyricist was in an altered state of consciousness.

But to say that it has some secret, subliminal satanic meaning implies that all who listen to some seemingly benign song will automatically become slaves of the devil, apart from their own freewill. Sorry, but I studied both psychology and writing in college, and that doesn't strike me as something that is even possible to do, especially through song lyrics.

We also need to be on guard against assuming the devil has too much power over us. Do we honestly believe that the corpus of present-day popular music somehow serves as an anti-Bible whereby the lyrics are written under the inspiration of Satan -- while still retaining their human authorship -- so that it can be truly said that poular music has both Satan and human beings as true authors? Sorry, I don't buy it.