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Old May 15, '07, 1:11 pm
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Default Can a priest stop in the middle of Mass?

This is question for a novel that I am writing.

Is this permissible:

1. priest is saying Mass.
2. in the middle of Mass, the pastor informs the priest of an emergency and tells him to go
3. the priest leaves and the pastor takes over the Mass

It's a pretty urgent emergency. Lives are at stake.

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Old May 15, '07, 1:24 pm
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Default Re: Can a priest stop in the middle of Mass?

Give the situation. Is there a reason the Pastor cannot take care of the emergency?
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Old May 15, '07, 1:25 pm
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Question Re: Can a priest stop in the middle of Mass?

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This is question for a novel that I am writing.

Is this permissible:

1. priest is saying Mass.
2. in the middle of Mass, the pastor informs the priest of an emergency and tells him to go
3. the priest leaves and the pastor takes over the Mass

It's a pretty urgent emergency. Lives are at stake.

Thanks for your answer!
The problem with hypothetical situations is that they never happen.

I had a philosophy professor for my ethics class who refused to work with hypothetical situations for this reason.

He said, as I am going to say here, before I even attempt to answer this how about you give a real example of this happening.

How are lives at stake that the pastor can not deal with it but the priest celebrating Mass can?

If there is time enough for the pastor to come and interrupt the Mass is there not enough time for the celebrant to get though the Eucharistic prayer? and if there is enough time for that is there not enough for him to finish?
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Old May 15, '07, 1:42 pm
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Default Re: Can a priest stop in the middle of Mass?

I know a priest who suffers from narcolepsy and is driven by a chauffer. He is competant to say mass and so forth but if the emergency call comes when the chauffer is not available, another priest must take the call.
Yes, interupting the celebrant to send him on a call that you can't take yourself for health or other reasons is permissible. I will also assume for the purposes of this thread that you are dealing with a weekday rather than a Sunday liturgy.

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Old May 15, '07, 1:43 pm
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I don't know what the original post'er had in mind but I'm willing to play

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How are lives at stake that the pastor can not deal with it but the priest celebrating Mass can?
Paster gets a call that a parish member was in a horrible accident and is on the verge of death. They are keeping him alive but it doesn't look like he is going to make it. The pastor is elderly and can no longer drive.

Thus, the quickest possible means to get a priest there is to send the one saying mass.

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If there is time enough for the pastor to come and interrupt the Mass is there not enough time for the celebrant to get though the Eucharistic prayer? and if there is enough time for that is there not enough for him to finish?
A few minutes COULD mean the difference between giving the last rites to someone who is still alive and arriving when the person is already dead.
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Old May 15, '07, 3:34 pm
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Sir Knight is close.

Please, everyone, this is a novel, not real life. All I need to know is "Is it permissible?"

Thanks.
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Old May 15, '07, 3:58 pm
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Instead of asking us knuckleheads, I'd ask a priest.
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Old May 15, '07, 4:05 pm
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Pope John Paul II once stopped a Mass half way through. I believe it was in the United States on one of his pastoral visits. It was an outside Mass with many in attendance and a horrendous lightening storm broke out and knocked down a large tower. Truly life and death. The trouble with citing hard cases is that everyone ends up dumbing them down to cover everything.
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Old May 15, '07, 4:06 pm
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Instead of asking us knuckleheads, I'd ask a priest
Ditto, Cat! As a writer myself (an unpublished novelist), I know that you're better off getting information directly from an expert... and it's not like you have to really stretch to find an expert in the field your protagonist is in! Try the AAA forum.

Good luck on the novel!
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Old May 15, '07, 6:04 pm
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Sir Knight is close.

Please, everyone, this is a novel, not real life. All I need to know is "Is it permissible?"

Thanks.
The Pastor or another priest must finish Mass if the celebrating priest passes out, is too ill to continue, is taken to the hospital, or dies. The celebrating priest must finish a Mass he has started as the main celebrant, unless one of the above happens.
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Old May 15, '07, 6:06 pm
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Default Re: Can a priest stop in the middle of Mass?

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I had a philosophy professor for my ethics class who refused to work with hypothetical situations for this reason.

He said, as I am going to say here, before I even attempt to answer this how about you give a real example of this happening.
As I've only taken a few philosophy classes, I don't feel qualified to criticize your professor's approach to philosophy. However, in response to most matters in life, I think this approach stinks. If you never explore hypothetical situations, you will not be prepared when they or similar situations arise. The Scout motto is "Be prepared." We are fortunate that our military, emergency services, infrastructure planners, etc explore hypothetical situations.

Beyond the practical applications I mentioned, there are also obvious uses in better understanding theory. This is why St Thomas used hypotheticals.
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How are lives at stake that the pastor can not deal with it but the priest celebrating Mass can?
Others have already given the good answer that the pastor may be unable to travel. The situation may also require a skill set (say Polish language fluency, or enormous strength, or the ability to squeeze through a narrow opening... ) that the pastor lacks.
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Old May 15, '07, 6:09 pm
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This is question for a novel that I am writing.

Is this permissible:

1. priest is saying Mass.
2. in the middle of Mass, the pastor informs the priest of an emergency and tells him to go
3. the priest leaves and the pastor takes over the Mass

It's a pretty urgent emergency. Lives are at stake.

Thanks for your answer!
## For sufficiently grave reasons, the priest can break off from offering Mass, yes ##
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Old May 15, '07, 6:10 pm
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The Pastor or another priest must finish Mass if the celebrating priest passes out, is too ill to continue, is taken to the hospital, or dies.
The way you cited those four sounds like it may be almost verbatim from some authoritative source. Is this the case, and if so why is the hospital mentioned - are there situations where that might occur without any of the other three?
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Old May 15, '07, 6:33 pm
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Yes. If the parochial vicar has superpowers and his equivelent of the "Bat Signal" has been illuminated, the pastor of the church can relieve him from celebrating the Mass and finish it for him.

I mean, that's really the answer you're looking for, isn't it?
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Old May 15, '07, 6:54 pm
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I don't know what the original post'er had in mind but I'm willing to play

Paster gets a call that a parish member was in a horrible accident and is on the verge of death. They are keeping him alive but it doesn't look like he is going to make it. The pastor is elderly and can no longer drive.

Thus, the quickest possible means to get a priest there is to send the one saying mass.

A few minutes COULD mean the difference between giving the last rites to someone who is still alive and arriving when the person is already dead.
See, this is why hypotheticals do not work.

If a priest is that disabled he will not be named pastor. At best he would be administrator.

Hospitals have Chaplains on call for these kind of emergencies as in most life and death emergency cases in the ER there is no time to fine out who the persons pastor is and to take the time to call them. I speak from experience here as I worked full time for 5 years and volunteer for 17 years in the Emergency services.

But nice try.
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