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Old May 29, '07, 3:48 pm
Pope Noah I Pope Noah I is offline
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Default Why is Masonry evil?

Simple question.
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Freemasonry?
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Old May 29, '07, 4:12 pm
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Yes, that's what I meant.
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Old May 29, '07, 5:41 pm
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check me as I' talking about worldwide freemasons...and for some reason american ones are different....

I believe that in osm eof their ceremonies they have to pledge themselves to their cause... so instead of serving christ they choose a different path and this is why the church does not welcome them.

Strangely there were a lot of masons at an anglican church i used to go to...i could never understand why they would want to be there or why the church let them stay when they have loyalties elsewhere.

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Old May 29, '07, 5:50 pm
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Freemasonry?
Phew -- I was worried he meant bricklaying!



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Old May 29, '07, 5:50 pm
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They dont pray in Jesus' name. The list is too long to get into here.
One can not be a Catholic and involved in it. To do so would be doing so in direct defiance to the Church.

Go to the search feature here and type in masons, freemasonry, ect.

You will see its been covered.
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Old May 29, '07, 5:53 pm
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"Despite the Church's clear rejection of Freemasonry, Catholics are falsely told that they can join the Lodge without compromising their faith. The evidence shows that Freemasonry is itself a religion, although Masons will deny that this is so. The "New Catholic Encyclopedia" states that "Freemasonry displays all the elements of religion, and as such it becomes a rival to the religion of the Gospel. It includes temples and altars, prayers, a moral code, worship, vestments, feast days, the promise of reward and punishment in the afterlife, a hierarchy, and initiative and burial rites" (vol. 6, page 137)."

http://www.staycatholic.com/freemasons.htm
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Old May 30, '07, 5:30 am
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Freemasonry and the Catholic Church are totally incompatible. You cannot be a Catholic and a Freemason. That is a grave sin.

See Pope Leo XIII's encyclical Humanum Genus on Freemasonry. It remains valid.

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13human.htm

From the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith headed by Cardinal Ratzinger:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...ticolo_en.html
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Old May 30, '07, 8:16 am
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My philosophy teacher said it looks good at first but as you move up the rank in freemasonry you get involved with people like KKK and the ultimate goal of freemasonry is to kill the Pope. Basically the antichrist?

she is a very well educated Franciscan.
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Old May 30, '07, 10:57 am
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My philosophy teacher said it looks good at first but as you move up the rank in freemasonry you get involved with people like KKK and the ultimate goal of freemasonry is to kill the Pope. Basically the antichrist?

she is a very well educated Franciscan.


I never heard such a thing before!

I hope she is wrong.
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Old May 30, '07, 11:09 am
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There's a lot of rumors and conspiracy theories about them that say they worship Satan, want to kill the pope, etc. Regardless of whether or not these are true, Freemasonry is bad. The whole point of their group was to undermine Catholic society was based on the whole Truth and to instill a civil society based solely on natural reason. Religion is fine with them as long as everyone just keeps it as a private activity. They are essentially naturalists/rationalists, Liberals (the specific kind condemned by Popes like Gregory XVI, Bl. Pius IX, Leo XIII, and others) and religious indifferentists. All these ideas are anti-Catholic. As Catholics, of course, we are to live our entire lives--public and private--according to our faith which we believe to be the one completely true faith. Governments must also govern in a way consonant with the rule of the King of kings in order to achieve a truly just society.
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Old May 30, '07, 1:10 pm
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Simple question.
Freemasons are rather unusual amongst religious groups in that they will accept practisng Catholics as members. Therefore the Church has to make a special ruling on them, which as it happens is that membership in a Masonic lodge is not compatible with membership of the Church. There are reasons for this, but essentially their status is no different from most non-Catholic religions - they disagree with us on some essentials, whithout necessarily beign diametrically opposed.
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Old May 31, '07, 7:52 am
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Simple question.
Some of the essentials they disagree with Catholics are:

1.) To destroy all authority that comes from God, and all revealed religion.

2.) The secret oath of obedience, taken as it is without any reserve, is absolutely unlawful, and the symbolism of many of many of its lodges is grossly blasphemous and insulting to Christianity.

3.) Freemasons may outwardly live good lives, but are cut off from the Church.

4.) Freemasons bind themselves by oath not to express any desire to receive the last sacraments on their deathbed. They will not allow a priest to approach them when they are on their death-bed. "They stop their ears, not to hear, and make their heart as the adamant stone" (Zach. 7:11). They persist of set purpose in impenitence.

5.) It has been said that Freemasons have sometimes obtained consecrated Hosts, which they subjected to horrible profanation. Such conduct is simply satanic.
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Old May 31, '07, 11:23 am
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Why is Masonry evil?
Simple question.
I don't like your handle.

I can live with freemasonry. I cannot live with someone calling themselves 'Pope'!
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Old May 31, '07, 11:38 am
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Freemasonry?
Phew -- I was worried he meant bricklaying!
Ah,.. glad you cleared that up before I went into my usual multi-post screed against the evils of terracotta.

Thanks. I'm rather relieved.
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