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Old Jun 12, '07, 3:27 pm
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What is a parochial vicar?

Before mass starts they read the announcements and it always ends with:

If you have any questions, please see Father X our pastor, Father Z our parochial vicar, or J or pastoral associate after mass.

I was just wondering what a parochial vicar is? No one could seem to tell me, but I probably wasn't asking the right people.

He does all the same stuff as Father X on the days that he celebrates mass.

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Old Jun 12, '07, 3:31 pm
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Here's an extensive article on the subject:

http://www.catholicherald.com/saunde...s/ws010802.htm

Basically, the pastor is the head of the church. The parochial vicar is basically an assistant pastor.

Here's what canon law says:

"Parochial vicars are priests who render their services in pastoral ministry as co-workers with the pastor in common counsel and endeavor with him and also under his authority" (545.1).
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Old Jun 13, '07, 7:04 am
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Old Jun 15, '07, 3:24 pm
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Here's an extensive article on the subject:

http://www.catholicherald.com/saunde...s/ws010802.htm

Basically, the pastor is the head of the church. The parochial vicar is basically an assistant pastor.

Here's what canon law says:

"Parochial vicars are priests who render their services in pastoral ministry as co-workers with the pastor in common counsel and endeavor with him and also under his authority" (545.1).
Why would one priest be called an associate pastor and another be called a parochial vicar in the same diocese? Does each diocese have a standard term for a priest serving at a parish who is not the pastor?
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Old Jun 15, '07, 5:44 pm
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In our diocese most of the priests, who are not pastors,are parochial vicars. However, we have a few who are pastor emeritus and several who are in residence. The latter work in the diocesan offices but live in a parish and provide some sacramental services [usually say masses and hear Confessions] for the parish.
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In our diocese most of the priests, who are not pastors,are parochial vicars. However, we have a few who are pastor emeritus and several who are in residence. The latter work in the diocesan offices but live in a parish and provide some sacramental services [usually say masses and hear Confessions] for the parish.
What is the difference between a parochial vicar and an associate pastor?
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Old Jun 15, '07, 9:17 pm
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What is the difference between a parochial vicar and an associate pastor?
In our case about 10 years. That's about how long ago we changed the term.
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In our case about 10 years. That's about how long ago we changed the term.
But what is the difference in a diocese that uses both terms?
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Old Oct 3, '07, 3:38 pm
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One is the Pastor, one is what used to be called the Associate Pastor now referred to usually as Parochial Vicar.

However, the Pastoral Associate is not usually a priest. Can be a Deacon or Religious or Lay Person. Someone who handles non sacramental issues for the Pastor; sometimes an administrator or supervisor but they are sometimes called Pastoral Associate.

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http://www.catholicherald.com/saunde...s/ws010802.htm
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Old Oct 3, '07, 8:04 pm
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Well, we would start calling the head priest the "boss" and the priest who are his subordinates the "junior" priests. We could go to a system that calls the parochial vicars apprentice and journeyman priests, depending how long they've been at the priest job.

The pastoral associate should be called a "civilian". Deacons in this role could be called "semi-civilians".
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I recall only one parish in Baltimore using the term "Parochial Vicar," and the pastor was a stuffy Englishman who may simply have preferred that term to "Associate Pastor." That was about 20 years ago. I haven't heard it here since.

Can somebody explain to me what a dean or deanery is? I've heard that term here on CAF, but not in Baltimore. Is it a Midwest thing?

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I recall only one parish in Baltimore using the term "Parochial Vicar," and the pastor was a stuffy Englishman who may simply have preferred that term to "Associate Pastor." That was about 20 years ago. I haven't heard it here since.

Can somebody explain to me what a dean or deanery is? I've heard that term here on CAF, but not in Baltimore. Is it a Midwest thing?

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A Deanery is an administrative division of a Bishoporic. It is not something you generally hear about as a lay person but I believe they exist in every diocese.
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A deanery is a grouping of several parishes. In our diocese it consisists of about 8-10 parishes in a geographical area. One of the pastors acts as the dean. He is responsible for calling deanery meetings and also he has to check the parish sacramental registers once a year and installs new pastors.

The DREs and RCIA coordinators also use the deanery system for meetings wehre they gather together as a deanery to discuss their ministry.
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That's interesting. I don't think we have them here in Balto. Surely after all these years I would have heard the term once or twice.

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