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Old Jun 25, '07, 10:59 pm
anthonylicalsi anthonylicalsi is offline
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Question How to address a Cardinal...

Hello Everyone,

It seems as though there is more than one way to address a Cardinal.

For example:
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger
or
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger

What is the difference in the order in which you put the title Cardinal?
Is there a meaning behind this?

For example lay people need to use: Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger

While non-lay people can use: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger

Thank you all for your help and insight.

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Old Jun 25, '07, 11:09 pm
orgel_maestro orgel_maestro is offline
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Hello Everyone,

It seems as though there is more than one way to address a Cardinal.

For example:
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger
or
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger

What is the difference in the order in which you put the title Cardinal?
Is there a meaning behind this?

For example lay people need to use: Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger

While non-lay people can use: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger

Thank you all for your help and insight.

God Bless the people at Catholic Answers.
Thank you for making me want to become a better Catholic.

Anthony

Here is a link on how to properly address clergymen. My parish is a little traditional, n we dont address our priests by their first names, we call them Fr. + surname. I think the proper way of refering to a cardinal, when directly addressing him is "your emminence". For writing letters, its: (for example) His Eminence, Roger Cardinal Mahoney, Archbishop of Los Angeles, or, His Eminence, The Most Reverend Cardinal Roger Mahoney, of Los Angeles.

check this link out, it talks about Monsignors, priests, brothers, deacons, bishops, archbishops, etc. http://www.traditioninaction.org/rel...essClergy.html
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Old Jun 25, '07, 11:28 pm
Semper Fi Semper Fi is offline
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Default Re: How to address a Cardinal...

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Here is a link on how to properly address clergymen. My parish is a little traditional, n we dont address our priests by their first names, we call them Fr. + surname. I think the proper way of refering to a cardinal, when directly addressing him is "your emminence". For writing letters, its: (for example) His Eminence, Roger Cardinal Mahoney, Archbishop of Los Angeles, or, His Eminence, The Most Reverend Cardinal Roger Mahoney, of Los Angeles.

check this link out, it talks about Monsignors, priests, brothers, deacons, bishops, archbishops, etc. http://www.traditioninaction.org/rel...essClergy.html
There must be some hidden reason as to why you used Cardinal Mahoney in your post discussing the traditional ways to address a clergyman.
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Old Jun 26, '07, 12:51 am
orgel_maestro orgel_maestro is offline
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There must be some hidden reason as to why you used Cardinal Mahoney in your post discussing the traditional ways to address a clergyman.
did a little research , here is an article from catholic herald written by a priest on proper etiquette when it comes to addressing clergy. Here is the excerpt explaining how to address cardinals:

link: http://www.catholicherald.com/saunde...s/ws020523.htm

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Next in the hierarchy comes the cardinal. A person would greet a cardinal, for instance Cardinal Theodore McCarrick of Washington, by saying, "Your Eminence" or "Your Lordship" (which is very British). In addressing a letter to Cardinal McCarrick, one would write, "His Eminence, William Cardinal McCarrick, Archbishop of Washington" with the salutation, "Your Eminence," "Most Eminent Cardinal," or "My Lord Cardinal."

In recent times, some people will reverse the word order, saying, "Cardinal William McCarrick" instead of "William Cardinal McCarrick." The formal word order originated in the time when last names were not common, but individuals were known by occupations or even places. For example, "John, the Smith" (or Blacksmith) eventually became "John Smith." The same evolution occurred with cardinals: What would have been "William, the Cardinal" would now be, with the use of family names, "William Cardinal McCarrick."
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