Letter on 1962 Missal Not Anti-Semitic

[KathleenElsie]

Mass on Good Friday? This is a novel idea.

[awalt]

Originally Posted by KofC660

Quite frankly, anyone that is offended is stupid, and should be ignored. The problem is 50% of the population is below-average intelligence, and some large number of the population (~16%) is borderline mentally retarded. These are statistical facts, and I'm not stating them to be mean or anything, just factual.

I pray that this kind of attitude toward other people goes away through the grace of the Holy Spirit. I can't believe that people think insulting other people who think differently, is Christian, will make anything better, or shows the love that Christ has asked us to show (and live).

God bless you.

[KofC660]

Originally Posted by awalt

I pray that this kind of attitude toward other people goes away through the grace of the Holy Spirit. I can't believe that people think insulting other people who think differently, is Christian, will make anything better, or shows the love that Christ has asked us to show (and live).

God bless you.

This isn't about people that think "differently", this is about people that think wrongly.

It's not "different" to believe the Latin word "perfidis" means "treacherous", it is simply WRONG.

As for 16% of the population being borderline mentally retarded, and incapable of good, rational thought, that's not an insult, but a fact.

[Rolltide]

Originally Posted by Traditionaldan

Praying for the Conversion of the Faithless Jews is not antisemitic. It is the only way for them to get into Heaven.
The fact that the Tridentine Mass cannot be offered on Good Friday so as not to offend the Jews is both uncharitable to the Jews as well as an insult to our faithful predecessors.
It also states that we Catholics are more concerned with not offending someones censabilities than saving their immortal soul.

I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here. The reason that the Extraordinary form of the Mass can't be offered on the Easter Triduum is NOT because of the offensive prayer (since it has been eliminated). It's because most parishes are only allowed to say ONE Mass per day during the Triduum, and under those circumstances, the Ordinary form of the Mass MUST take preference (unless you go to an FSSP or ICRSS parish).

[awalt]

Originally Posted by KofC660

As for 16% of the population being borderline mentally retarded, and incapable of good, rational thought, that's not an insult, but a fact.

Just curious, if your statement is an attempt to educate vs. insult, do you have a credible source for this 16% number?

[KofC660]

Originally Posted by awalt

Just curious, if your statement is an attempt to educate vs. insult, do you have a credible source for this 16% number?

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQBasics.aspx

The average IQ is set at 100. According to the science of statistics, 68% are 1 standard deviation above and below 100. 1 standard deviation is 15 IQ points. So, 68% of the population has an IQ between 85 and 115. Of the total population 32% above or below these numbers, 16% of the population fall on either side of the curve. Anyone with an IQ above 115 is considered very intelligent, with anything above 130 being considered "genius". Anyone with an IQ below 85 is considered, at best, "borderline deficient", with anything below 70 being considered definite mental retardation.

[awalt]

Originally Posted by KofC660

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQBasics.aspx

The average IQ is set at 100. According to the science of statistics, 68% are 1 standard deviation above and below 100. 1 standard deviation is 15 IQ points. So, 68% of the population has an IQ between 85 and 115. Of the total population 32% above or below these numbers, 16% of the population fall on either side of the curve. Anyone with an IQ above 115 is considered very intelligent, with anything above 130 being considered "genius". Anyone with an IQ below 85 is considered, at best, "borderline deficient", with anything below 70 being considered definite mental retardation.

Ah now I get it. You used the statistical analysis of the world population and projected that same 16% number on people who disagree with your Latin translation or are of another religion and get offended by certain remarks.

It would seem the likelihood the "16%" people never got through high school, much less to a scholarship, theologian, or religious leadership role. And that the 16% number doesn't apply as an argument to this discussion at all given the caliber of people who are being discussed in religious circles.

Thanks for clarifying.

[KofC660]

Originally Posted by awalt

Ah now I get it. You used the statistical analysis of the world population and projected that same 16% number on people who disagree with your Latin translation or are of another religion and get offended by certain remarks.

It would seem the likelihood the "16%" people never got through high school, much less to a scholarship, theologian, or religious leadership role. And that the 16% number doesn't apply as an argument to this discussion at all given the caliber of people who are being discussed in religious circles.

Thanks for clarifying.

The people that disagree with "my" Latin translation of the word "perfidis" do so for one or two reasons: either they aren't smart enough to do the research to find that "perfidis" doesn't translate into "perfidious", or they are dishonest, and lie to people to get others to believe the word "perfidis" does mean "perfidious".

[BobP123]

The average IQ is set at 100. According to the science of statistics, 68% are 1 standard deviation above and below 100. 1 standard deviation is 15 IQ points. So, 68% of the population has an IQ between 85 and 115. Of the total population 32% above or below these numbers, 16% of the population fall on either side of the curve. Anyone with an IQ above 115 is considered very intelligent, with anything above 130 being considered "genius". Anyone with an IQ below 85 is considered, at best, "borderline deficient", with anything below 70 being considered definite mental retardation.

So in order for me to be considered a genius, I'd have to have the mind of a 90-yr old??

Just funning you, of course.