“It’s tradition”

Cal Catholic · #1 Jul 18, '07, 12:20 am

Diocese of Monterey pledges Tridentine Mass in two locations by September

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bear06 · #2 Jul 18, '07, 5:31 pm

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never found anyone who both likes the Latin Mass and actually understands Latin. They can’t speak it. They can’t read it. They can’t understand it.”

This cracked me up. He must know a very small cirlce of people.
He certainly doesn't know half of the people in this forum!

otjm · #3 Jul 18, '07, 5:37 pm

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Originally Posted by bear06

This cracked me up. He must know a very small cirlce of people.
He certainly doesn't know half of the people in this forum!

I didn't know there had been a suvey of the people in this forum.

bear06 · #4 Jul 18, '07, 10:40 pm

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I didn't know there had been a suvey of the people in this forum.

Feel free to take a poll.

If the priest truly hasn't met anyone who knows how to speak, understands and can say prayers in Latin then he doesn't get out much.

rtconstant · #5 Jul 18, '07, 10:43 pm

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Originally Posted by otjm

I didn't know there had been a suvey of the people in this forum.

Oh I think we have a fair number of Latin speakers here but I would be interested in knowing which mass they prefer. I'm decent in Latin (I can read it, Though I'm working on speaking it) but I prefer the NO go figure

Genesis315 · #6 Jul 18, '07, 10:52 pm

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Originally Posted by rtconstant

Oh I think we have a fair number of Latin speakers here but I would be interested in knowing which mass they prefer. I'm decent in Latin (I can read it, Though I'm working on speaking it) but I prefer the NO go figure

I read an account from then Fr. Ratzinger on the liturgy debate at Vatican II that said this:

"The subject that preempted by far the most discussion time during the first session was, oddly enough, the debate over the language of the liturgy .. The discussion did not lack color. It was not uncommon that glowing panegyrics in favor of Latin were themselves delivered in labored pidgin Latin, while the most forceful advocates of the vernacular could express themselves in classical Latin."

jonpd · #7 Jul 19, '07, 4:30 am

I think we need to differentiate between knowing how to speak Latin fluently and learning Latin phrases to the extent needed to assist at a Latin Mass (whether TLM or NO). After a while one knows what "Agnus Dei qui tollis peccatta mundi" means without necessarily knowing the grammar, that Mundi is the genetive form "of the world" etc. If one spends enough time with a Missal that has the Latin and the vernacular on opposite pages one learns what the phrases mean.

Jon