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Old Aug 27, '07, 8:06 pm
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Default the initials- OP C.SS.R O.C.D - after orders????

Hi
How are they used?
Can anyone tell me if the initials indicating the different orders,
for example Dominicans have OP and Franciscans and Carmelites
have different initials......are they just for the Priests and Sisters?
And for example, in a monastery, would only the Mother Superior
have this OP or would all the sisters or only those with managerial
positions?
And does third order have this if they use their chosen name in
parenthisis?

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Old Aug 27, '07, 8:15 pm
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Hi
How are they used?
Can anyone tell me if the initials indicating the different orders,
for example Dominicans have OP and Franciscans and Carmelites
have different initials......are they just for the Priests and Sisters?
And for example, in a monastery, would only the Mother Superior
have this OP or would all the sisters or only those with managerial
positions?
And does third order have this if they use their chosen name in
parenthisis?

Thanks for any response Attachment 1551
Those are abbreviations of the name of the particular order in Latin to identify that a person belongs to that order. So I guess everyone belonging to say, the Augustinians bears the abbreviations of the name of their order.

For example:

O.P. Ordo Praedicatorum-Dominicans

C.Ss.R. Congregatio Sanctissimi Redemptoris-Redemptorists

O.Cist. Ordo Cistercienses-Cistercians

O.Praem. Ordo Praemonstratensis-Premonstratensians

S.J. Societas Jesu-Jesuits

O.C.D.-Discalced (Barefoot) Carmelites

O.Carm.-Carmelites

O.F.M. Order of Friars Minor-Franciscans

O. S. M. Ordo Servorum Mariae-Servites
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Old Aug 27, '07, 8:27 pm
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Default Re: the initials- OP C.SS.R O.C.D - after orders????

Someone in a religious community (anyone, not just a leader or priest) will use these designations (initials from Latin, usually, indicating the community's official name) when their name is listed formally.

Sometimes someone in a secular institute will use such a designation (SFO for Secular Franciscans, for example), but I don't think that such is anything more than personal practice.
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Old Aug 27, '07, 10:45 pm
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Those are abbreviations of the name of the particular order in Latin to identify that a person belongs to that order. So I guess everyone belonging to say, the Augustinians bears the abbreviations of the name of their order.

For example:

O.P. Ordo Praedicatorum-Dominicans

C.Ss.R. Congregatio Sanctissimi Redemptoris-Redemptorists

O.Cist. Ordo Cistercienses-Cistercians

O.Praem. Ordo Praemonstratensis-Premonstratensians

S.J. Societas Jesu-Jesuits

O.C.D.-Discalced (Barefoot) Carmelites

O.Carm.-Carmelites

O.F.M. Order of Friars Minor-Franciscans

O. S. M. Ordo Servorum Mariae-Servites
## O.C.D., because:
  • Ordo
  • Carmelitarum
  • Discalceatorum
C.Ss.R is a shortened form of
  • Congregatio
  • Sanctissimi
  • Redemptoris
which means:
  • Congregation
  • of the Most Holy
  • Redeemer
As for the Augustinians, there are, or were, at least two groups:
  • O.S.A.
  • O.S.A. Erem.
or
  • Ordo = Order
  • Sancti = of Saint
  • Augustini = Augustine
&
  • Ordo = Order
  • Sancti = of Saint
  • Augustini = Augustine
  • Eremitarum = of Hermits
or, Order of Hermits of Saint Augustine - that is, hermits living by the Rule which was based on one of his letters.

The Greek for desert is heremos, & a Christian who lived as a desert-dweller was referred to as an heremita; which eventually became the English word "hermit"; "eremite" is an alternative form.

Strictly speaking:
  • the Cistercians & Premonstratensians are (Benedictine) monks
  • the Dominicans, Carmelites, Servites & Augustinians are friars
  • the Jesuits & Redemptorists are clerics living under vows
--------
  • monks live life under vows, in one place; & have almost no other purpose than to pray it in common.
  • friars are moved around, but live under vows
  • clerics under vows get moved around, & pray the Liturgy of the Hours privately.
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Old Aug 28, '07, 5:48 am
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Hi
How are they used?
Can anyone tell me if the initials indicating the different orders,
for example Dominicans have OP and Franciscans and Carmelites
have different initials......are they just for the Priests and Sisters?
And for example, in a monastery, would only the Mother Superior
have this OP or would all the sisters or only those with managerial
positions?
And does third order have this if they use their chosen name in
parenthisis?

Thanks for any response Attachment 1551
Each Religious Order has their own letters. Each member of the Order has the letters after their Professed name.
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Old Aug 28, '07, 8:49 am
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If I'm not mistaken, the "ancient" communities such as the Augustinians, Mercedarians, Benedictines, Franciscans, Dominicans, Carmelites are the only "orders."

Those founded in the 14th century or later (I don't know the exact date) are technically considered institutes when first founded and then congregations when they reach a certain size/age. Examples include the Jesuits, the Fathers of Mercy, Little Sisters of the Poor, Vincentians, Miles Christi, Missionaries of Charity, etc.

This is a fascinating thread. Does anybody know an authoritative resource that explains all this?
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Old Aug 28, '07, 8:55 am
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If I'm not mistaken, the "ancient" communities such as the Augustinians, Mercedarians, Benedictines, Franciscans, Dominicans, Carmelites are the only "orders."

Those founded in the 14th century or later (I don't know the exact date) are technically considered institutes when first founded and then congregations when they reach a certain size/age. Examples include the Jesuits, the Fathers of Mercy, Little Sisters of the Poor, Vincentians, Miles Christi, Missionaries of Charity, etc.

This is a fascinating thread. Does anybody know an authoritative resource that explains all this?
Why not check the Catholic Encyclopedia?
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