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Old Sep 13, '07, 9:43 pm
6glargento 6glargento is offline
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Default what is the purpose of the obelisk in vatican city?

I've heard some anticatholics comment on the obelisk in vatican city saying that it is a fallic symbol rooted in paganism. They say that this is a remenent of pagan rome. I know that this is completly false, but I am curious as to its purpose.
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Old Sep 13, '07, 10:00 pm
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Default Re: what is the purpose of the obelisk in vatican city?

Interesting question. But I found that this topic has already been discussed at the forum thread given below, which gives some good information:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthrea...hlight=obelisk
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Old Sep 14, '07, 9:53 am
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Default Re: what is the purpose of the obelisk in vatican city?

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I've heard some anticatholics comment on the obelisk in vatican city saying that it is a fallic symbol rooted in paganism. They say that this is a remenent of pagan rome. I know that this is completly false, but I am curious as to its purpose.
There is no greater indication of idiocy in a scholar than to claim that the purpose of anything longer than it is wide is to be a phallic symbol.

This is another example of the Church's wisdom regarding sex---we recognize, as the Ivory Tower does not, that a warped view of sexuality leads to seeing everything in the world in terms of its alleged sexual significance.
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Old Sep 14, '07, 2:40 pm
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Default Re: what is the purpose of the obelisk in vatican city?

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The obelisk, of the 13th century BC, was moved to Rome in AD 37 by the Emperor Caligula to stand in the central spina of the Circus Gai et Neronis, which lay to the left of the present basilica. It was moved to its current site in 1586 by the engineer-architect Domenico Fontana under the direction of Pope Sixtus V; the engineering feat of re-erecting its vast weight was memorialized in a suite of engravings . The Vatican Obelisk is the only obelisk in Rome that has not toppled since ancient Roman times. During the Middle Ages, the gilt ball on top of the obelisk was believed to contain the ashes of Julius Caesar.[5] Fontana later removed the ancient metal ball, now in a Rome museum, that stood atop the obelisk and found only dust. Though Bernini had no influence in the erection of the obelisk, he did use it as the centerpiece of his magnificent piazza.
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Old Sep 28, '11, 7:51 pm
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Default Re: what is the purpose of the obelisk in vatican city?

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I've heard some anticatholics comment on the obelisk in vatican city saying that it is a fallic symbol rooted in paganism. They say that this is a remenent of pagan rome. I know that this is completly false, but I am curious as to its purpose.
What a lot of people fail to notice is that the obelisk is not inscribed, their has been a Cross mounted at the top, and at the base there is the Latin inscription:

Sixtvs V Pont Max
Obeliscvm Vaticanvm
Dis Gentivm
Impio Cvltv Dicatvm
Ad Apostolorum Limina
Operoso Laboretranstvlit
Anno MDLXXXVI Pont II

Ecce crvx Domine
Fvgite Partres adversae
Vicit leo Detribv ivda


Christvs Vincit
Christvs Regnat
Christvs imperat
Christtvs ab omnimalo
Plebem svam
Defendat


Which roughly translates:

Pope Sixtus V (Supreme Pontiff)
Obelisk of Vatican
richly adorned by the Gentiles
To the threshold of the Apostles
The labor of thing laboriously carried away
1586, 2nd year of his pontificate.

Behold the Cross of the Lord!
go into exile ye hostile powers!
The Lion of the tribe of Judah hath prevailed!

Christ conquers,
Christ is King,
Christ is Emperor!
May Christ protect His
people from all evil!"

It shows that Christ conquers all!

Maius pax Christi semper esse tecum
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Old Sep 28, '11, 10:32 pm
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Default Re: what is the purpose of the obelisk in vatican city?

It's a stylish hand to the clock we call Saint Peter's Square, it accurately shows solar noon.
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