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Old Sep 20, '07, 4:01 pm
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Is Taize Prayer Catholic or is it one of those New Age things going on in the Church like Centering Prayer and the Enneagram?
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Old Sep 20, '07, 4:15 pm
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An argument can be made either way, both for and against Taize. The "for" camp says that it is contemplative, and not new-agey. The "against" camp says that, but its very nature, it is ecumenical and therefore a threat to the Faith. However, in the CAL archives, Fr. Trigillio said there was nothing wrong with it.

This article fom Catholic World News might help:
Pope urges Taize community to follow founder's vision

The Taizé service is a meditative, ecumenical Christian experience of prayer that includes silence and chanting. It is not "centering prayer" as it is directed and focused. In fact, Pope Benedict gave them a blessing:

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Entrusting you to the prayer of Mary, Mother of the Lord and of all those who have become his brothers and sisters, the Holy Father grants you with all his heart an affectionate apostolic blessing, as well as to the Taizé brothers, to the communities and the families who are welcoming you. (from here: http://www.taize.fr/en_article2970.html)
That's good enough endorsement for me!
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Old Sep 20, '07, 5:11 pm
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Is Taize Prayer Catholic or is it one of those New Age things going on in the Church like Centering Prayer and the Enneagram?
Taize is not any of those things.
it is sung or chanted Christian.prayer, sometimes with musical accompaniment, sometimes not, in groups, sometimes with part harmony, sometimes not, in Latin and other modern languages, using simple repetetive words, refrains and melodies. The group in France where this style of prayer-- which incorporates Gregorian chant but is not the same thing--originate, was founded by a non-Catholic but is ecumenical, and includes many Catholics in its membership. Its purpose is to provide a setting where beautiful traditional prayer cand be offered in an ecumenical group, without violating the norms of formal worship of Catholics or any other Christian group.
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Old Sep 20, '07, 6:07 pm
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Taize for me is very Catholic, it is a given piece of Sacred Scripture sung over and over again in repetition which is no different from Lectio Divina.

I was wondering how to post some Taize music but gave up, if anyone can direct and teach me how to do it I'll whip on and post it!

' Gloria Deo'

'Jubilate Deo, jubliate Deo'

'Laudate omnes gentes'

'Jesus remember me'

'Christus Ressurexit'

'Adoramus te Christe'

'Veni Lumen'

'Ubi Caritas'

and many others are well know Taize hymns and I find them very edifiying.

We must remember that Brother Roger the founder of Taize, before his brutal murder,wheel chair bound received Holy Communion from our Pontiff, Pope Benedict the 16th. I believe Taize is very Catholic.

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Old Sep 20, '07, 7:19 pm
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Is Taize Prayer Catholic or is it one of those New Age things going on in the Church like Centering Prayer and the Enneagram?
It is the product of protestants who mimick Catholics.
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Old Sep 20, '07, 7:22 pm
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It is the product of protestants who mimick Catholics.
merciful heavens we don't want "those" folks running round singing Gregorian chant and praising God together, heaven forbid. you have no evidence for this so why not give it a pass.
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It is the product of protestants who mimick Catholics.
Woah there tiger!

It is a good enough mimick to be used within Catholicism. Aren't we all seeking to mimick the Lord Jesus Christ? Ok the Catholic Church holds the fullness of Truth, absolute fact, but in Taize we find a very good mimick indeed and nothing of conflict with the Catholic Church.

Brother Roger gave good service to God and the Pope did not refuse him Holy Communion. I would say Brother Roger was very Catholic indeed and sought to bring union in faith in Jesus.

Don't knock it until you have done as much or superceded him.

There is nothing wrong with Taize and any catholic may use their hymns and praise to God as it is Catholic in nature.

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Old Aug 9, '09, 7:32 am
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This is not intended to be a mass, right? Assuming the theology is correct and that it is not trying to replicate mass, and that there is no confusion on that point, I don't see how any prayer or prayer service can be in violation of Catholic teaching, not matter how different it is, and those three caveats are all very important
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Mabuhay, Bruce! Welcome to CAF!

God bless,
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