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Old Nov 30, '07, 8:04 am
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I have a strange request that I hope you can shed some light on. One of my friends is a big Kenneth Copeland fan and I find him extremely repulsive. I think his Biblical interpretation is certainly skewed if not a down right scam. Does anyone know of Kenneth Copeland and his ministries?

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I have a strange request that I hope you can shed some light on. One of my friends is a big Kenneth Copeland fan and I find him extremely repulsive. I think his Biblical interpretation is certainly skewed if not a down right scam. Does anyone know of Kenneth Copeland and his ministries?

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Yes, he is a bigwig of the Word of Faith movement, which preaches the "prosperity gospel" aka "name it and claim it".

Googling "Word of Faith" or "prosperity gospel" should get you more than you ever wanted to know.

My wife's former boss and coworkers were all part of this. It is a Ponzi scheme with religious trappings in my view; essentially, they teach that God will materially reward the faithful based on how much they give to the church.

There are many good people who belong to this movement; it is unfortunate that they do so in my view as they essentially subsidize the lifestyles of Copeland's inner circle at cost to themselves and their families.

This strikes me as a wicked perversion of charity.
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TP,
They are a health and wealth prosperity gospel "ministry". Maybe you can share some of the things that are coming to light about them.

Rapid.net has an article that lists some of the errors of his teachings here.
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That Adam was God manifest in the flesh.
“God’s reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself, and in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even. ... Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus. ... Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh.” (Following the Faith of Abraham I, 1989 audiotape, #01-3001, side 1)
There is a video that might shed some light on this on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D74VHiVLROM and here's an article on that same story. Earlier this month this story broke in the Dallas news.

Berean Faith also discusses his errors.

Good luck with your friend. You might begin a Divine Mercy Chaplet Novena for them as you bring this stuff to them.
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Thanks guys!...That will will definitely work.
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Here is perhaps the best book in print on the subject:

http://www.amazon.com/Different-Gosp.../dp/1565631323


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Years ago, I had friends who were into Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, John Osteen, Marilyn Hickey, etc. Their messages always struck me as viewing God as some sort of a divine vending machine---you stuck X amount of "faith" into the slot at the top, and you got a new Cadillac out at the bottom.

And if you didn't get your new Cadillac, oh, gee, I'm sorry---I guess you just didn't have enough "faith". Here, send me $35.00 for my new cassette tape series on "Believing In Faith", listen to them all sixty times, and try again.

Balderdash.
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For what it's worth, here's his organization's home page.

http://www.kcm.org/

Read it at your own risk.
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I've noticed that these Word of Faith/Seed faith preachers invariably tell you that THEIR wallet is the field you're supposed to sow your dollars into.

The Didache says that if a prophet says, "Give someone else something", listen to him, but if he says, "Give me something," he's a false prophet.
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I've noticed that these Word of Faith/Seed faith preachers invariably tell you that THEIR wallet is the field you're supposed to sow your dollars into.

The Didache says that if a prophet says, "Give someone else something", listen to him, but if he says, "Give me something," he's a false prophet.
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