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Nov 17, '04, 5:00 pm
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Can first cousins marry?
Can anyone help out here?
Firstly is it allowed?
Secondly are there allowances if the answer is no such as age of people (40) and that they wouldnt be having children??
Thanks
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Nov 17, '04, 5:20 pm
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
You need to get a dispensation from your bishop, and it needs to be legal as far as state law is concerned.
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Nov 17, '04, 6:04 pm
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
Why would anyone want to marry a relative????
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Nov 17, '04, 7:59 pm
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
You want to marry your cousin?
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Nov 17, '04, 8:17 pm
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
Resists mandatory hick joke.
But, hey, I do have a cousin who's pretty hot!
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Nov 17, '04, 8:56 pm
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Canonically, it doesn't look like it's permissible:
"Can. 1091 §2. In the collateral line marriage is invalid up to and including the fourth degree."
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"Can. 1078 §3. A dispensation is never given from the impediment of consanguinity in the direct line or in the second degree of the collateral line."
I think your diocesan tribunal should be able to quickly answer this question.
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Nov 17, '04, 10:12 pm
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
It's permissible if one receives a dispensation.
"second degree of the collateral line" means brother and sister.
Even if it's against civil law, if you receive a dispensation and the bishop agrees to allow you to marry, you could go ahead and marry anyway although it might not be advisable.
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Nov 18, '04, 12:10 am
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
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Originally Posted by chicago
Resists mandatory hick joke.
But, hey, I do have a cousin who's pretty hot!
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I would not mind marrying my beutiful counsin from Wisconsin. She is a great woman.
I actually fell in love with my SECOND cousin once, she was soooooooooooooo beutiful.
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Nov 18, '04, 10:00 am
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
Is that even legal? My cousin once told me I was pretty.  I like my husband a whole lot better though.
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Nov 18, '04, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by tuopaolo
"second degree of the collateral line" means brother and sister.
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I think you're right. Cousins would be in the 4th degree of the collateral line, and so while it is an impediment, a dispensation is possible. I found this interesting discussion:
"This impediment, in the collateral line, can be dispensed.
"However, the Archdiocese [of Chicago] will not issue a dispensation for a marriage which is taking place contrary to civil law. In the State of Illinois, first cousins may not marry unless they are of a certain age. Therefore, the Archdiocese will not issue a dispensation for first cousins to marry. This only applies to marriages for which a civil marriage license must be obtained. It does not apply to convalidations where a civil marriage has already taken place."
If this website is accurate, the condition that permits of first-cousin marriages in Illinois is "if both are 50 or older, or one is unable to reproduce."
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Nov 18, '04, 10:11 am
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
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Originally Posted by chicago
Resists mandatory hick joke.
But, hey, I do have a cousin who's pretty hot!
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perv!.... 
you know i'm kidding right?
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Nov 18, '04, 10:12 am
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
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Originally Posted by misericordie
I would not mind marrying my beutiful counsin from Wisconsin. She is a great woman.
I actually fell in love with my SECOND cousin once, she was soooooooooooooo beutiful.
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another perv.....
YOU KNOW I'M KIDDING.............RIGHT....
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Nov 18, '04, 10:30 am
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
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Originally Posted by Jenace
Can anyone help out here?
Firstly is it allowed?
Secondly are there allowances if the answer is no such as age of people (40) and that they wouldnt be having children??
Thanks
Curious
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Yes, but they can't have sex.........ever.
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Nov 18, '04, 11:18 am
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
do I hear a banjo playing??
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Nov 18, '04, 11:39 am
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Re: Can first cousins marry?
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Originally Posted by tuopaolo
Even if it's against civil law, if you receive a dispensation and the bishop agrees to allow you to marry, you could go ahead and marry anyway although it might not be advisable.
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In the past I did a LOT of research on this subject, and I think you're wrong on this. The church will not perform any marriage that violates civil law.
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