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Old Jun 26, '08, 4:39 pm
Al Masetti Al Masetti is offline
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Default S2433 would tax Americans to send billions to UN

I was listening to Mark Levin on the radio and someone picked up from Senator Hutchinson's Web site that S2433 will be up for a vote right after the July 4th recess.

www.marklevinshow.com and click on audio rewind as soon as they get tonight's program posted... probably late tonight or tomorrow.

S2433 would tax Americans with the proceeds being distributed through the United Nations to raise world average income.

I will post more here.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/show

The link stopped opening ... might be too many hits.

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The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.'s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to

"banning small arms and light weapons"

but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills...0_SN_2433.html

Detailed Summary
Global Poverty Act of 2007 - Directs the President, through the Secretary of State, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

Requires the strategy to contain specific and measurable goals and to consist of specified components, including: (1) continued investment or involvement in existing U.S. initiatives related to international poverty reduction and trade preference programs for developing countries; (2) improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate; (3) enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate; (4) mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses and public-private partnerships; (5) coordinating the goal of poverty reduction with other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals; and (6) integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs.
Sets forth specified reporting requirements. Directs the Secretary of State to designate a coordinator who will have primary responsibility for overseeing and drafting the reports, as well as responsibility for helping to implement recommendations contained in the reports.

Defines specified terms.
Status of the Legislation
Latest Major Action: 4/24/2008: Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 718.

In my opinion, this would be something like "Oil for Food", but much much larger.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2036815/posts

Cannot mention the name of one of the sponsors; however, If passed, it will cost taxpayers $845,000,000,000 over the next 13 years, in addition to our current foreign aid expenditures.

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Old Jun 26, '08, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Al Masetti View Post
I was listening to Mark Levin on the radio and someone picked up from Senator Hutchinson's Web site that S2433 will be up for a vote right after the July 4th recess.

www.marklevinshow.com and click on audio rewind as soon as they get tonight's program posted... probably late tonight or tomorrow.

S2433 would tax Americans with the proceeds being distributed through the United Nations to raise world average income.

I will post more here.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/show

The link stopped opening ... might be too many hits.

Here's another description:

The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.'s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to

"banning small arms and light weapons"

but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills...0_SN_2433.html

Detailed Summary
Global Poverty Act of 2007 - Directs the President, through the Secretary of State, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

Requires the strategy to contain specific and measurable goals and to consist of specified components, including: (1) continued investment or involvement in existing U.S. initiatives related to international poverty reduction and trade preference programs for developing countries; (2) improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate; (3) enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate; (4) mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses and public-private partnerships; (5) coordinating the goal of poverty reduction with other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals; and (6) integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs.
Sets forth specified reporting requirements. Directs the Secretary of State to designate a coordinator who will have primary responsibility for overseeing and drafting the reports, as well as responsibility for helping to implement recommendations contained in the reports.

Defines specified terms.
Status of the Legislation
Latest Major Action: 4/24/2008: Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 718.

In my opinion, this would be something like "Oil for Food", but much much larger.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2036815/posts
So what is wrong with supporting the Kyoto protocol and the Millennium Development Goals? Isn't poverty reduction the most magnanimous goals of "social justice" as opposed to being virulently opposed to abortion and the right to choose?
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Old Jun 26, '08, 5:43 pm
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So what is wrong with supporting the Kyoto protocol and the Millennium Development Goals? Isn't poverty reduction the most magnanimous goals of "social justice" as opposed to being virulently opposed to abortion and the right to choose?
The Kyoto Protocol discriminates harshly against the U.S.. To follow it would cripple the U.S. economy, vastly increasing poverty. The U.S. can support the reduction of greenhouse emissions without giving credence to a treaty that is a product of a parasitical organization. The U.S. donates more than any other country to the U.N., yet the U.N. remains virulently anti-American and anti-Semitic to nearly a racist extent.
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Old Jun 27, '08, 9:31 am
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Anyone voting for a treaty that places international policy above the constitution is a traitor and should be executed after a fair trial.
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Old Jun 27, '08, 9:36 am
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Anyone voting for a treaty that places international policy above the constitution is a traitor and should be executed after a fair trial.
I agree though maybe execution is extreme...maybe not- it's worth the debate. How about those who enforce/support/fund (selective) UN resolutions in spite of Constitutonal provisions that say otherwise?
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Old Jun 27, '08, 11:55 am
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...is a traitor and should be executed after a fair trial.
LOL

Here is the meat of the Global Poverty Act (s.2433)
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(a) Strategy- The President, acting through the Secretary of State, and in consultation with the heads of other appropriate departments and agencies of the United States Government, international organizations, international financial institutions, the governments of developing and developed countries, United States and international nongovernmental organizations, civil society organizations, and other appropriate entities, shall develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide [Struck out->] worldwide [<-Struck out] , between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day
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(c) Components- The strategy required by subsection (a) should include the following components:

(1) Continued investment or involvement in existing United States initiatives related to international poverty reduction, such as the United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003 (22 U.S.C. 7601 et seq.), the Millennium Challenge Act of 2003 (22 U.S.C. 7701 et seq.), and trade preference programs for developing countries, such as the African Growth and Opportunity Act (19 U.S.C. 3701 et seq.).

(2) Improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate.

(3) Enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate.

(4) Leveraging United States trade policy where possible to enhance economic development prospects for developing countries.

(5) Coordinating efforts and working in cooperation with developed and developing countries, international organizations, and international financial institutions.

(6) Mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses, United States and international nongovernmental organizations, civil society, and public-private partnerships.

(7) Coordinating the goal of poverty reduction [Struck out->]with other development goals, such as combating the spread of preventable diseases such as HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria, increasing access to potable water and basic sanitation, reducing hunger and malnutrition, and improving access to and quality of education at all levels regardless of gender.[<-Struck out] with the other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals, including eradicating extreme hunger and reducing hunger and malnutrition, achieving universal education, promoting gender equality and empowering women, reducing child mortality, improving maternal health, combating the spread of preventable diseases such as HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria, increasing access to potable water and basic sanitation, ensuring environmental sustainability, and achieving significant improvement in the lives of at least 100,000,000 slum dwellers.

(8) Integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/text
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Old Jun 27, '08, 3:36 pm
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"...shall develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty,..."
Well, I suppose that might be implemented by assisting in the development of economic freedom and capitalist economies in poor countries.
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Old Jun 27, '08, 4:44 pm
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Default Re: S2433 would tax Americans to send billions to UN

There are many gray areas in the constitution others like freedom of religion and speech the bulk of the bill of rights (though I guess we could survive with some army guy staying with my family) are not up for debate or a vote they are to stay in place regardless of whats popular.

Those who would take away or basic freedoms while pretending to help us are traitors. I don't see why we should go out of our way to be nice to people who are doing what we have spent many lives to stop people like Hitler from doing.

That said I am very posed to vigilante(sp) activities and the like as two wrongs will not make a right.
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