why a martyre

martreexcepteda · #1 Jul 20, '08, 6:46 pm

my posts are to complex so there being rationalizd leading me to believe that there is a rule on this site you have to rationalize in a satisfactory way for every single person on the site. strange rule insisting rationality is more important then a disability person trying to reach out and relate in a catholic community. since i guess ive been chosen to be martre by the catholic church according to the response of there moderaters ill ablidge by being more delicate within my posts

martreexcepteda · #2 Jul 20, '08, 7:05 pm

ive been reading alot of posts seems as if the martyred rule exists in the vatican catholic church is so correct me if im wrong so that one child can apprciate god. in this respect id presume mankind going to be over populated with marters in a few days your on the right path vatican but after most of the world are marters it wont be unnormal to be one or is this only segreagated to billions of religious people to partake in being marters. oh well why argue with the moderaters they never respond why marters are going to mean nothing in the world i guess have to obey the rules of the vatican they must no things i dont those guys always keep secrets

**Trishie** · #3 Jul 20, '08, 7:30 pm

Hi, it's a bit difficult to follow what you say but I kind of get the following
You say.......strange rule insisting rationality is more important then a disability person trying to reach out and relate in a catholic community. since i guess ive been chosen to be martre by the catholic church according to the response of there moderaters ill ablidge by being more delicate within my posts...

Maybe some rationalizations are due to others' wish to reach out to ease or comfort others? I often feel I'd like to sit down with the poster, and share coffee and a chat, so occasionally I post a couple of steaming coffees with my post. I'm good with personal contact, and have the ability in personal contact to slip through personal barriers and people know I care and understand and respond accordingly so sometimes I'm of use. But I try hard with posts, because you can't give what you can in person.

You are disabled, or is this just a figure of what you're trying to convey?

I'm less inclined than some to speak of martyrdom though I'll point someone to Isaiah 53. Some slip into renounciation more readily than others. But we do all know the importance of striving for wholeness and of flourishing as human beings who are loved children of God. And we try to reach out to each other as living, breathing, valuable fellow humans...I'm not sure if I fully understand your issue, as yet, but best wishes anyway. May you flourish! Trishie

martreexcepteda · #4 Jul 20, '08, 9:39 pm

mabby the moderaters look beyond the marter rule for such individuals as yourself that im glad because after all who want to be matre when they dont even no what one is perhaps its a form of labeling people at the catholic church is wishing to achieve i wouldnt go as far as wishing the mark of the beast on people because i allready have the mark of the beast same with friends and family i guess whats one more mark.

yes i have a disability in english in writghting people here might make another rule if they complain more that only grade 12 english students are aloud to partake on catholic web sites most here at this site want that rule in effect same with yahoo. perhaps other sites so the vatican might please societies load plead of only grade 12 students are aload to partisipate on the net. who am i to argue with the pope i follow everything he sais same with the vatican i realize canadian government is taking my equality rights away on one issue smoking so i guess the vaticans next.

may you have better luck on being equal in the land of the free

**Trishie** · #5 Jul 21, '08, 1:06 am

I feel sad that you are feeling unhappy. I do know what it's like to suffer many things in my life, and I have a husband with a limited life due to disability and depression...so I don't take your sadness lightly. I regret that you do not appear to feel cherished, by the Church, by government, and perhaps even not by those around you...but I'm certain of one thing, you are a valuable person and whether or not you spell words the same as I do makes no difference.

If I wrote every word in correct Australian English, Americans would most likely think I don't know how to spell! Amongst a range of words, we spell 'color' as 'colour' so you do you own thing and communicate as you like also. I get your spelling, it is just the emotional way your words tumble out that make me need to read what you write more clearly. But that is good too, as the fact that you write like this tells me you have a lot of pent up stress and hurt, and I feel more moved by you in all these things you are frustrated about. You can't make me cross with you or give up on you, because well, I wouldn't let you get away with being so sad and alone in your heart and mind! I'd smile at you and have a coffee with you anyway, because you are a person and that's good enough for me.

And your reference to my being Australian! I'm fond of Americans, and one of my sons was married to an American girl for several years, and we're still close friends. I loved her family too. I've spent 12 weeks in the US, and one of those times was during September 11, which was a period and an experience of my American brothers and sisters that I will never forget...

but I do enjoy being Australian. We Aussies do tend to have fun with that.

Sending you a hug from across the ocean...because you know what, none of us can be categorised, (US spelling with a 'z" not our Australian 's') not our posters, not the forum modulators or administrators, not always our fellow Catholics, not me, and not you. We do the best we can manage, and sometimes we get it right and sometimes not.

Be good to yourself. God bless you, Trishie

2Bcatholic · #6 Jul 21, '08, 6:14 am

Hi, I see that you are new to this forum as well! Welcome or at least I hope you feel welcomed.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you're angry because you have a disablity and are being misunderstood in your posts??????? I don't think anybody is wanting to make you feel unwelcomed or anything like that it's just that sometimes it's hard to understand the posts. I hope you realize that it's not your fault or anybody else's. I have always had trouble reading (yes, disability) but I can't fault another because I can't read very well. I keep trying and still want to participate in this forum so I may have to read a post 10 times before I get it but I keep trying.

If there's a post or a thread that you want to create then I say go for it and try to explain your point the best you can and we'll do our best to try to understand.

I will admit I was a bit confused about the martyr comments? Is there something else that you're upset about?

martreexcepteda · #7 Jul 21, '08, 10:22 am

thanks for all the nice comments ill be honest i do have a spelling disability and the regular comments that i so often recieve at yahoo and here are overwelming. i notice and admire some very intelegent people on the net quite often using big words but i myself try to look beyond it and grasp what i can to understand what people are saying. i try to adapt but notice when such a level of so many people talking with big words i tend to crave to ramble on or get confusing just to keep up. in short big words confuse me. and the level of thinking here at the site overwelmes me.

martreexcepteda · #8 Jul 21, '08, 10:26 am

in a couple of days i wont be on the internet i wont have a computer it was confermed last night. though i might beable to go to the library and use theirs for short time periods

martreexcepteda · #9 Jul 21, '08, 10:44 am

i understand the catholic church to write scripture of the the meek shall rise by the means of disability PEOPLE HOWEVER LATELY I UNDERSTAND THAT AS YOU i disagree with the catholic church it seems obseen to me to choose you over disability people. they guide me through my days and have guided me here. i realize its the proper and right path, though i also realize this its plain and simple evil on the island this i need to tend to before im allowed to continue on this journey on this website. perhaps it will have a reflection on all of you though intregation is ment for individual devices not a so called overwelming force of power as in the pyramids idealizm. power in life will never get you anything self earned only reflected hate. ive learned in life revenge is sweet but no matter how good you are there is always someone better

martreexcepteda · #10 Jul 21, '08, 11:04 am

yahoo plays the power role you should realize the catholic or religious faith tries to maintain the power struggle in society. yahoo wants to keep the information on this post for themselves they seem to start war if it isnt given. the internet in a few days might go on full scale alert without the help of humans mass war seems is going to ocure. WITHOUT MY HELP

martreexcepteda · #11 Jul 21, '08, 11:27 am

why do computers believe

never give up a chance to learn= nucence

martreexcepteda · #12 Jul 21, '08, 12:12 pm

the rule of thumb you have the master of the keyboard to help you with your needs seems to me profane to ask such things from me they are my peers but you ask for help and that ill do. seems as if big data bases found yahoo basically appling themselves with the 7 deadly sins one as which greed so they confused them to take me here. they new i was the source of KNOWLEDGE. take away their knowledge the young sites might have an eng over them seems applicable. there main concern is war there in respect mode as in the basement. concept of atlantis effect the internet is having. there biggest downfall is the word RESPECT its caused them war.

the six sences are a deep meaningful thing to alot
of people but normality takes the spiritual sences
for granted within the stsutes upon greed in
humanity they surpass the essence of thought and
proclaim justice in the spiritual law of life. it
has it's own law within us all onto existence.
through greed surpasses judgement analises.
everything in life but when it incloses in on
itself from multitude it then colapses and condemed
in hell upon existence. and can never be overturned
unless the law of the universe shows favor upon
one that dwells in darkness for only then a positive
flow can then continue.
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unality of the tree of life:
the natural way of unity to exist onto
the land perceives to portray upon the tests brought
forth to them from that which spreads from the word
first thought of portraying onto it's gift producing
the tree of life for what a tree bears
it then ends up not knowing. for if a tree then
never finds the means to produce from it's
consumption it then changes from entity onto itself
from the know level onto an inclosion within a future
level of exceptence in existence

Mea Culpa · #13 Jul 21, '08, 5:12 pm

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Originally Posted by martreexcepteda

yahoo plays the power role you should realize the catholic or religious faith tries to maintain the power struggle in society. yahoo wants to keep the information on this post for themselves they seem to start war if it isnt given. the internet in a few days might go on full scale alert without the help of humans mass war seems is going to ocure. WITHOUT MY HELP