USA Christian Denominations Directory

[AAC08]

according from the USAChurhes.org, it says:

The Roman Catholic Church is a Catholic denomination that was founded in the 16th century. The headquarters for the Roman Catholic Church is located in Washington, DC. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest denomination in the United States.

The Roman Catholic Church consists of approximately 19,431 parishes nationwide.*

what is your point in this? how did the source says that the Roman Catholic Church was founded in 16th century?

[puzzleannie]

check out the links, should give you a good idea of the mindset of those who constructed this site. it also invites you to post a correction to the entry, but I'll wager you will bombarded if you do. why waste your time with this stuff?

[Br. Rich SFO]

Originally Posted by AAC08

according from the USAChurhes.org, it says:

The Roman Catholic Church is a Catholic denomination that was founded in the 16th century. The headquarters for the Roman Catholic Church is located in Washington, DC. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest denomination in the United States.

The Roman Catholic Church consists of approximately 19,431 parishes nationwide.*

what is your point in this? how did the source says that the Roman Catholic Church was founded in 16th century?

It's speaking of the Roman Rite Catholic Church in the UNITED STATES. I believe it was in fact first established in the 1500's in the territory now know known as the United States (St. Augustine, FL). Of course they misunderstand the nature of the Catholic Church by calling it a denomination.

[MonkeyTape]

Originally Posted by AAC08

according from the USAChurhes.org, it says:

The Roman Catholic Church is a Catholic denomination that was founded in the 16th century. The headquarters for the Roman Catholic Church is located in Washington, DC. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest denomination in the United States.

The Roman Catholic Church consists of approximately 19,431 parishes nationwide.*

what is your point in this? how did the source says that the Roman Catholic Church was founded in 16th century?

My question is whether there is even a "headquarters" in the US. The Archdiocese of Baltimore is the oldest diocese in the country, but that aside all diocese are independent of each other are they not?

[Br. Rich SFO]

Originally Posted by MonkeyTape

My question is whether there is even a "headquarters" in the US. The Archdiocese of Baltimore is the oldest diocese in the country, but that aside all diocese are independent of each other are they not?

That is correct, but most non-Catholics don't understand this. They think that the USCCB is the governing body for the Catholic Church in the United States.

[BeeSweet!]

Originally Posted by Br. Rich SFO

That is correct, but most non-Catholics don't understand this. They think that the USCCB is the governing body for the Catholic Church in the United States.

If the USCCB is not the "governing body" so to speak, then what is it exactly? I thought they established certain norms within our nation, such as holy day obligations.

[Joe Kelley]

Originally Posted by BeeSweet!

If the USCCB is not the "governing body" so to speak, then what is it exactly? I thought they established certain norms within our nation, such as holy day obligations.

USCCB is a coordinating body. It's decisions have power only if arrived at by unanimous consent [in which case it simply states what all the bishops are doing], or by a majority vote and ratified by Rome [in which case it is a ruling from Rome].

[flewen]

Originally Posted by AAC08

according from the USAChurhes.org, it says:

The Roman Catholic Church is a Catholic denomination that was founded in the 16th century. The headquarters for the Roman Catholic Church is located in Washington, DC. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest denomination in the United States.

The Roman Catholic Church consists of approximately 19,431 parishes nationwide.*

what is your point in this? how did the source says that the Roman Catholic Church was founded in 16th century?

just correct me If I am wrong with regards to why that website regard Roman Catholicism to be founded in 16th century..

was it about Christopher Columbus or of what other source he get the information?

[flewen]

Originally Posted by Br. Rich SFO

It's speaking of the Roman Rite Catholic Church in the UNITED STATES. I believe it was in fact first established in the 1500's in the territory now know known as the United States (St. Augustine, FL). Of course they misunderstand the nature of the Catholic Church by calling it a denomination.

or when I scanned the USSB website, it has this data.

General Facts of the Catholic Church in the United States

I'm just confused how the site said it was in the 16th century but then when I cited the site of the USSB it was in the 18th century..?

[Br. Rich SFO]

Originally Posted by flewen

or when I scanned the USSB website, it has this data.

General Facts of the Catholic Church in the United States

I'm just confused how the site said it was in the 16th century but then when I cited the site of the USSB it was in the 18th century..?

The Church established mission territory in what is now the United States in the 16th and 17th century. The first official diocese was established in Baltimore in the 18th. Does that make better sense?

[CentralFLJames]

Actually not far from where I live is The Cathedral-Basilica of St. Augustine. It is the oldest continuously active Catholic faith community in the continental United States founded on Sept. 8, 1565.

The Historic Cathedral-Basilica of St. Augustine

James

[AAC08]

Originally Posted by CentralFLJames

Actually not far from where I live is The Cathedral-Basilica of St. Augustine. It is the oldest continuously active Catholic faith community in the continental United States founded on Sept. 8, 1565.

The Historic Cathedral-Basilica of St. Augustine

James

Well done wasting your time on useless information. Points for effort.
However, the source itself says this:

"The Roman Catholic Church is a Catholic denomination that was founded in the 16th century."


It's not referring to the Roman Catholic church in America.

[CentralFLJames]

Originally Posted by AAC08

Well done wasting your time on useless information. Points for effort.
However, the source itself says this:

"The Roman Catholic Church is a Catholic denomination that was founded in the 16th century."


It's not referring to the Roman Catholic church in America.

So you find some value in wasting time critiquing useless information, do you? Don't you find that to be curiously oxymoronic?

Your source lacks recognized historical pedigree and a rational basis - in a word its bogus. Even most orthodox Protestants will tell you that the Catholic Church existed before they came around and split off. What you are trying to do is use the word "Roman" as a pejorative for a new denomination. This was a term attached to The Catholic Church by its separating enemies in attempt to declare it a new denomination simply by their vacation of the church that would not conform to their strange new ideas of secular religion (humanist ideas). So, your revisionist history lacks scholarship and is without any basis in reality. It is Protestants who elected to leave the Catholic Church, not a group of people who left the Catholic Church to start a Roman Catholic Church. That is absurd. The Catholic Church has always been seated in Rome but has always called itself "The Catholic Church" and we can point to centuries of historical record to prove it. All a Protestant can do is point back about 500 years ago to a Catholic monk named Luther who decided to redefine the Catholic Church in his own image. But those who supported him did not all want to call themselves Lutherans and so we now have the contagion of Protestantism as an umbrella for 30,000 or so seperate non-Catholic faiths.

By your pithy logic all Americans should have started calling themselves "Yankees" or North Americans ever since the civil war when the south tried to break from the union to start the true reformed American. You seem comfortable with the notion or principal of letting one's enemies define your family name as well as your heritage. Will you respond to me if I rename you Mr. Absurd?

Cut us a break and start being rational.

James

[Tomster]

Originally Posted by AAC08

according from the USAChurhes.org, it says:

The Roman Catholic Church is a Catholic denomination that was founded in the 16th century. The headquarters for the Roman Catholic Church is located in Washington, DC. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest denomination in the United States.

The Roman Catholic Church consists of approximately 19,431 parishes nationwide.*

what is your point in this? how did the source says that the Roman Catholic Church was founded in 16th century?

If, as a professed Protestant, you thoroughly knew how your religion was formed; with how many variations and with what inconstancy your confessions of faith were drawn up, and afterwards from one another; by how many subtleties, evasions, and equivocations they labored to repair their divisions and to re-unite the scattered members of their disjointed reformation; this reformation of which your founders boasted would afford you but little satisfaction, or rather, to speak my mind more freely, it would excite in you only feelings of contempt.

When in expositions of faith, variations were seen among Christians, they were ever considered as a mark of falsehood and inconsistency in the doctrine propounded. Faith speaks with simplicity; the Holy Spirit sheds pure light; and the truth which he teaches has a language always uniform. Whoever is but least conversant in the history of the Church, must know she opposed to each heresy appropriate and precise expositions which she never altered; and if we attend to the expressions by which she condemned heretics, it will appear that they always proceed by the shortest and most direct route to attack the error in its source. She acts thus, because all that varies, all that is overlaid with doubtful or studiously ambiguous terms, has always appeared suspicious, and not only fraudulent, but even absolutely false, because it betrays an embarrassment with which truth is unaquainted.

[AAC08]

Originally Posted by CentralFLJames

So you find some value in wasting time critiquing useless information, do you? Don't you find that to be curiously oxymoronic?

Since when did I say that there is any value in doing this? Furthermore, I don't merely criticize useless information for the sake of criticizing it, of course. I'm doing this to shame the apologists who uses this source as their prof that independent christian chruches are protestants.

like what other apologists who uses this information that according from their standards, all independent christian churches are protestants.

Non-Denominational/Independent Directory

Originally Posted by CentralFLJames

Your source lacks recognized historical pedigree and a rational basis - in a word its bogus. Even most orthodox Protestants will tell you that the Catholic Church existed before they came around and split off. What you are trying to do is use the word "Roman" as a pejorative for a new denomination. This was a term attached to The Catholic Church by its separating enemies in attempt to declare it a new denomination simply by their vacation of the church that would not conform to their strange new ideas of secular religion (humanist ideas). So, your revisionist history lacks scholarship and is without any basis in reality. It is Protestants who elected to leave the Catholic Church, not a group of people who left the Catholic Church to start a Roman Catholic Church. That is absurd. The Catholic Church has always been seated in Rome but has always called itself "The Catholic Church" and we can point to centuries of historical record to prove it. All a Protestant can do is point back about 500 years ago to a Catholic monk named Luther who decided to redefine the Catholic Church in his own image. But those who supported him did not all want to call themselves Lutherans and so we now have the contagion of Protestantism as an umbrella for 30,000 or so seperate non-Catholic faiths.

"Your source lacks recognized historical pedigree and a rational basis - in a word its bogus". So, why bother using the same source? I didn't use this source; the online catholic apologists do, I am just clarifying this to this catholic forums

. So, for the apologists who are using this, stop using this source unless you want to look like a bigger fool.

Originally Posted by CentralFLJames

By your pithy logic all Americans should have started calling themselves "Yankees" or North Americans ever since the civil war when the south tried to break from the union to start the true reformed American. You seem comfortable with the notion or principal of letting one's enemies define your family name as well as your heritage. Will you respond to me if I rename you Mr. Absurd?

Cut us a break and start being rational.

James

My job is done; the source has already been disproved. Thank you for your time in helping me disprove the source.

I am just clarifying the stand of this site that according from this site, all independent christian churches and non-denominational chruches are protestants..this source makes me laugh.