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Old Oct 20, '08, 3:32 pm
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Question What is demonic oppression?

What is it? I can't really locate any good resources on it. Does anyone have any links?

The main answers i'm looking for regarding oppression is ....
* what is it?
* what are signs / symptoms of it?
* how to get rid of it?
* why does God allow it?
* if Jesus *is* the remedy /savior from this demonic oppression, than why should one who trusted him with everything trust him to deliver them? and why didn't he protect them before? Where was this savior when his lamb was being devoured????

any information would be much appreciated. All I have come across so far is protestant bible ministries deliverance sites that do not have many answers. Any good information would be much appreciated.

thankyou in advance
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Old Oct 20, '08, 3:43 pm
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The only part of your question I feel I can answer is "...where was this saviour when his lamb was being devoured???"

For a person to be oppressed by the devil it is my understanding that there had to be habitual sin involved. Suppose a person had been involved with pornography for many years, and then wanted to come back to the Lord. This person may need help in being delivered from this habit.

Another way to become oppressed is to dabble in forbidden things such as astrology, seeing psychics and mediums, and things like that.

And the same goes with other sins, for example, stealing, constantly backbiting and cutting down others in conversations, etc.
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Old Oct 20, '08, 5:15 pm
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What is it? I can't really locate any good resources on it. Does anyone have any links?
The Saint Pio Center for Deliverance Counseling

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* what is it?
* what are signs / symptoms of it?
See this post for a good answer to those questions.

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* how to get rid of it?
I recommend Confession and receiving the Eucharist first, and then completing the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. The SPCDC requires that clients work at these steps for a minimum of 2 months before contacting them for a personal consultation.

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See Romans 8:28: "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

That means God can take all things, including your depression, and even the possibility of demonic harassment, and use them to work for the good of your soul in the long run.

Demons are like chained dogs who can do nothing to us unless God permits it, and if God permits it, he does it for our own good. Perhaps what you're experiencing now is what it will take to get your attention to show you that you do need Jesus, the Church and the Sacraments. That on your own, creating your own idea of God, there is nothing but sorrow and despair. Often addicts have to hit rock bottom before mending their ways. The prodigal son had to be reduced to life in a pigpen before figuring out that his way of doing things led to misery.

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No trial has come to you but what is human. God is faithful and will not let you be tried beyond your strength; but with the trial he will also provide a way out, so that you may be able to bear it. (1 Corinthians 10:13)

It may feel like you're being devoured, but you are not. God will not allow you to be tested beyond your strength. You can trust Jesus because He loves you so much he gave His life for your salvation.
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Old Oct 20, '08, 7:11 pm
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You might want to consider obtaining a St Benedict medal.

Here is a bit of information:

Crux mihi lux

On the back of the medal, the cross is dominant. On the arms of the cross are the initial letters of a rhythmic Latin prayer: Crux sacra sit mihi lux! Nunquam draco sit mihi dux! (May the holy cross be my light! May the dragon never be my guide!).


Peace

Above the cross is the word pax (peace), that has been a Benedictine motto for centuries. Around the margin of the back of the medal, the letters V R S N S M V - S M Q L I V B are the initial letters, as mentioned above, of a Latin prayer of exorcism against Satan: Vade retro Satana! Nunquam suade mihi vana! Sunt mala quae libas. Ipse venena bibas! (Begone Satan! Never tempt me with your vanities! What you offer me is evil. Drink the poison yourself!)


Use of the Medal

There is no special way prescribed for carrying or wearing the Medal of St. Benedict. It can be worn on a chain around the neck, attached to one's rosary, kept in one's pocket or purse, or placed in one's car or home. The medal is often put into the foundations of houses and building, on the walls of barns and sheds, or in one's place of business.

The purpose of using the medal in any of the above ways is to call down God's blessing and protection upon us, wherever we are, and upon our homes and possessions, especially through the intercession of St. Benedict. By the conscious and devout use of the medal, it becomes, as it were, a constant silent prayer and reminder to us of our dignity as followers of Christ.

The medal is a prayer of exorcism against Satan, a prayer for strength in time of temptation, a prayer for peace among ourselves and among the nations of the world, a prayer that the Cross of Christ be our light and guide, a prayer of firm rejection of all that is evil, a prayer of petition that we may with Christian courage "walk in God's ways, with the Gospel as our guide," as St. Benedict urges us.


More about the medal and its history at the website of The Order of Saint Benedict, here:

http://www.osb.org/gen/medal.html

Just a note that any sacramental item (medal, scapular, etc) should not be used superstitiously (like a "lucky charm"), but prayerfully as described above.
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I suffered from terrible depression for years (most of my life). Looking back, I find that it was all necessary to kill my love for the world and worldly things. God used it to purify me. I know I need a lot more purifying so I'm trying to cooperate more with that process. Totally blew it tonight - completely melted down on my poor family! Praise God for His mercy and second chances....
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What is it? I can't really locate any good resources on it. Does anyone have any links?

The main answers i'm looking for regarding oppression is ....
* what is it?
* what are signs / symptoms of it?
* how to get rid of it?
* why does God allow it?
* if Jesus *is* the remedy /savior from this demonic oppression, than why should one who trusted him with everything trust him to deliver them? and why didn't he protect them before? Where was this savior when his lamb was being devoured????

any information would be much appreciated. All I have come across so far is protestant bible ministries deliverance sites that do not have many answers. Any good information would be much appreciated.

thankyou in advance
I had a quick glance at a couple of your other posts on your profile. Obviously you claim you were regularly abused in some sort of Catholic institution, whether a church, school, orphanage or whatever. And it seems you've never gotten over it.

Generally speaking we have some sort of spiritual barrier around us which protects us as children. But through traumatic experiences this barrier can be broken or dented, and we become suscectible to demonic influence, which can lead to despair and other problems.

I think this may have happened in your case.

In your case there are two factors - spiritual and psychiatric. I think you need to see a Catholic psychiatrist who also has a strong spiritual bent. Until you do, I think you might have an uphill battle.

I know forgiveness is part of it. I had a lot of emotional abuse from my father, and I have to admit I still haven't forgiven him fully. I'm working on it, but reluctantly. However I suspect not much is going to change until I do.

I'll go a bit deeper. He appeared to me the night he died. I've been through this before on other posts. However at one stage, he did say, "Son, you've got to forgive me!" I yelled back, "You treated me like dirt for 20 years, and now you want forgiveness!!" To which he responded, "Son, it's not my sake. It's too late for me. It's for your sake. If you don't forgive me, you'll destroy yourself!!"

So it appears forgiveness is not for the benefit of the offender, but for the forgiver. Easy to say, but hard to do. It's possible the offender or offenders couldn't care less. Caiaphas and Annas showed no sign of remorse or repentance after condeming Christ, despite the fact He forgave them on the cross. I can only assume they're paying for it even now.

That's part of my experience. But I think you need a spiritual psychiatrist, and I'd suggest you stick to a Catholic one if you can find one. As I noted in one of my other posts, there is a good one in Brisbane I can recommend, but I don't know anyone else.
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Remember, you can forgive with an act of the will.....without the feelings of forgiveness. Just tell the Lord you want to forgive every time you are tempted to have thoughts of unforgiveness. Then, there will come a time when the Lord will let you feel the forgiveness towards that person.

Think of the Lord's passion and death and how he loves every one of us. He wants the salvation of all....just leave it in His Hands.
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What is it? I can't really locate any good resources on it. Does anyone have any links?

The main answers i'm looking for regarding oppression is ....
* what is it?
* what are signs / symptoms of it?
* how to get rid of it?
* why does God allow it?
* if Jesus *is* the remedy /savior from this demonic oppression, than why should one who trusted him with everything trust him to deliver them? and why didn't he protect them before? Where was this savior when his lamb was being devoured????

any information would be much appreciated. All I have come across so far is protestant bible ministries deliverance sites that do not have many answers. Any good information would be much appreciated.

thankyou in advance
There are some spiritual warfare conferences in the audio links below. They give some good factual basics and how to come through it all.

Demons always tempt people who pursue holiness, they tempt each person, but in oppression the temptations and trials are severe. They can cause dark clouds and bad emotions, horrible images in the imagination, thoughts towards despair, and raise the passions to desire sinful pleasures.. among many other tests..

But the good news is we have guardian angels too, and the Lord will never allow us to be tested beyond our endurance.. our safety is in our sinlessness, prayer, and trust in the Lord.. the cleaner our souls and the more we embrace Him, the better we will weather the journey and overcome spiritual oppression.

This is a life full of tragedies and difficulties because men are allowed to be free and sin, and these sins can harm others spiritually too.. but we can overcome all these things.. and discover where Christ was the whole time.. waiting for reunion with us..

We are born in sin and separated from God.. we have to come back to Him completely.. to be able to overcome all our difficulties. The holier we are the more we trust in God, the more no thing can truly harm us, and our pasts become no longer become full of troublesome memories.

The St. Michael prayer, the prayer of contrition, the act of hope, and the St. Benedict Medal and Holy Water are all very good prayers along with the basics for someone fighting this battle.

God allows all these things for many reasons, ultimately through the mysterious Providence of God, he will wipe every tear from every eye and all will work out towards the greatest good.


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Dear Jesus, help me to spread Your Fragrance everywhere I go. Penetrate and possess my whole being so utterly that all my life may only be a radiance of Yours. Shine through me and be so in me, that every soul I come in contact with may feel Your Presence in my soul: let them look up and see no longer me -- but only Jesus.
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An Exorcist Tells His Story
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http://www.domcentral.org/study/aumann/st/st14.htm#emp

scroll down...

of course the rite of exorcism (of which there is a new one) is reserved to exorcists...never laity...and other things to have changed ...see Cardinal Ratzinger's letter regarding this subject....so bear in mind this when reading this older work.

if there is need...call an exorcist (who is a Catholic Priest authorized by his Bishop)


but the laity ....they may pray...and make use of sacramentals etc..
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Here is the Letter from the Cong. for the Doctrine of the Faith....

http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFEXORC.HTM

with the opinions of a Theologian at EWTN as well.
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I think you actually have to go to the top...and then scroll down til you see oppression....
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