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Old Nov 6, '08, 6:35 pm
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Default Patron saints of depression, hopelessness, sadness, sorrow...

Know any good ones?
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Old Nov 6, '08, 6:41 pm
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St. Dymphna.
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Old Nov 6, '08, 8:04 pm
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St. Raphael the Archangel and St. Amabilis are both patrons of people suffering from mental illness so by extention that would cover depression, too.
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Old Nov 6, '08, 8:12 pm
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Saint Jude
St. Jude Thaddaeus
Feastday: October 28
Patron of Desperate Cases

St. Jude Thaddaeus
St. Jude Thaddaeus

St. Jude, known as Thaddaeus, was a brother of St. James the Less, and a relative of Our Saviour. St. Jude was one of the 12 Apostles of Jesus.

Ancient writers tell us that he preached the Gospel in Judea, Samaria, Idumaea, Syria, Mesopotamia, and Lybia. According to Eusebius, he returned to Jerusalem in the year 62, and assisted at the election of his brother, St. Simeon, as Bishop of Jerusalem.

He is an author of an epistle (letter) to the Churches of the East, particularly the Jewish converts, directed against the heresies of the Simonians, Nicolaites, and Gnostics. This Apostle is said to have suffered martyrdom in Armenia, which was then subject to Persia. The final conversion of the Armenian nation to Christianity did not take place until the third century of our era.

Jude was the one who asked Jesus at the Last Supper why He would not manifest Himself to the whole world after His resurrection. Little else is known of his life. Legend claims that he visited Beirut and Edessa; possibly martyred with St. Simon in Persia.

Jude is invoked in desperate situations because his New Testament letter stresses that the faithful should persevere in the environment of harsh, difficult circumstances, just as their forefathers had done before them. Therefore, he is the patron saint of desperate cases and his feast day is October 28. Saint Jude is not the same person as Judas Iscariot who betrayed Our Lord and despaired because of his great sin and lack of trust in God's mercy.

We should be invoking St. Jude with the resolve of our nations presidential choice.
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Old Nov 6, '08, 8:13 pm
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Default Re: Patron saints of depression, hopelessness, sadness, sorrow...

Here is a list of all the Saints against Mental Illness: http://saints.sqpn.com/patrons-against-mental-illness/

I would assume praying to the Blessed Virgin and St. Joseph would be good ones as well since they probably dealt with the ultimate mental anguish: seeing their Son (adoptive in St. Joseph's case) suffer humiliation and horrendous death.
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Not mental illness depression, I mean more along the lines of prolonged sadness.
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Not mental illness depression, I mean more along the lines of prolonged sadness.
What you're describing sounds like dysthymia, or dysthymic disorder. It's the psychological equivelant of a low-grade fever -- doctors don't always recognize that you DO have a fever; you know something's wrong, but you're so used to feeling that way you can't put your finger on it.

It IS considered to be a psychological disorder, treatable with medication and counselling. Any of the patron saints of mental illness would be suitable. My own dysthymia is co-morbid with my ADHD, i.e., whatever is causing my ADHD is also causing my dysthymia.

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Default Re: Patron saints of depression, hopelessness, sadness, sorrow...

If someone lost both of his parents the same day, and was incredibly sorrowful for a month -- that wouldn't be a mental illness, would it? That would just be "depression".

Eh, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Know any good ones?
## Our Lady of Sorrows ?

Another angle, perhaps: St. Philip Neri is particularly well-known for the gift of Joy.
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If someone lost both of his parents the same day, and was incredibly sorrowful for a month -- that wouldn't be a mental illness, would it? That would just be "depression".

Eh, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
St. Elizabeth Seaton is the patron saint for lost parents.
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If someone lost both of his parents the same day, and was incredibly sorrowful for a month -- that wouldn't be a mental illness, would it? That would just be "depression".

Eh, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
It always is best, wise and prudent to allow one's doctor to make any sort of diagnosis. Passing depression at times of great loss/grief is not unusual but again, but best to talk things over with one's doctor as depression needing medical treatment is not at all selective............Blessings and regards.........Barb
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Here is a list of all the Saints against Mental Illness: http://saints.sqpn.com/patrons-against-mental-illness/

I would assume praying to the Blessed Virgin and St. Joseph would be good ones as well since they probably dealt with the ultimate mental anguish: seeing their Son (adoptive in St. Joseph's case) suffer humiliation and horrendous death.

Isn't it generally accepted that St. Joseph had died before the beginning of Jesus's public ministry, let alone His Passion and death? This is a minor point.... I don't mean to split hairs... I think your point is still well taken, and makes me think of the Seven Sorrows and Joys of St. Joseph. Since St. Joseph is the patron of the Universal Church, he must suffer also over the persecution of the Church.
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Default Re: Patron saints of depression, hopelessness, sadness, sorrow...

The Russian Orthodox Bishop St. Tikhon of Zadonsk suffered from what was then called "involutional melancholia" (clinical depression)--and yet was a great saint, spiritual guide and writer, and wonderworker.
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**If someone lost both of his parents the same day, and was incredibly sorrowful for a month -- that wouldn't be a mental illness, would it? That would just be "depression".

Eh, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.**

Depression following bereavement is part of the grieving process.

The closer the departed was to you, the longer you will grieve.

It takes a year or more to get over the loss of a parent, and if you lost both at the same time, that would doubtless make the period of depression longer. (I have lost both my parents, so I know what I'm talking about here.)

Clinical depression is depression with no discernable cause.

This can only be diagnosed by a professional, but it is NOT a character flaw. It's a PHYSICAL DISEASE! It's a chemical imbalance, and the right meds can help fix it.

In the mean time, be easy on yourself.
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Default Re: Patron saints of depression, hopelessness, sadness, sorrow...

The grief would last a long time. But if it's interferring with you daily life, talk to a doctor. I have dysthymia, which wasn't diagnosed for a really long time. There are test that help diagnose it. At least, I've done it a couple of times. And the doctor can't make the diagnosis on the first visit.
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