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Old Nov 9, '08, 10:29 pm
Jehanne Darc Jehanne Darc is offline
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Default Is Listening to ANthony beneficial and safe to help with setting goals for making a living?

We received some Anthony Robbins tapes. I have always mocked the whole idea of listening to these tapes, but I see that we need some help in being able to set goals and accomplish them for supporting our family. Can we listen to this guy and learn from him?

There are many intrepid business men who do well in the world and can help others. Can we learn how to do this?

We are very devout and try to grow and learn. I know that God wants us to support our family and use our talents in this world. Can we learn how to do it from this guy?
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Old Nov 9, '08, 11:34 pm
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Default Re: Is Listening to ANthony beneficial and safe to help with setting goals for making a living?

From Timothy Bauer
Reno, Nevada

You ask a very beneficial question to all. And input from these
forums is one way to analyze whether Mr. Robbins has some-
thing to offer for you. Below are some other ideas might want
to consider.

1. I have personally used some of Mr. Robbins products-in a
very short nutshell is my conclusion. If follow what he presents
should enhance your life. But here is a big big disclaimer-much
of what he has the person do is set goals for themselves. And
that can be anything. Unfortunately he does not tie in any goal-
whether it would really draw you closer to Christ. And whether
it necessarily was good for you. As say-he does present ideas
and methods to achieve goals. But if the person does not
have the right goals-like a devoted Catholic should, than this
may get you off track of what is really important.. Mr.Robbins is basically a moral relavist and that can be dangerous. So be
careful on that account. Enough of my opinion.

2. Below are link to a site on internet-with comments-analysis
of Mr. Robbins products.

http://www.programcritique.com/subca...nyRobbins.html

3. Wikipedia-insight below. Here is the link to entire article.
Below is under the criticism section of Mr. Robbins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_robbins


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Robbins' techniques, theories, and business practices have been the subject of criticism.


""In a 2002 newsletter for the James Randi Educational Foundation, Randi comments on some experiences recounted by a participant at a 2002 "Unleash the Power Within" seminar. The participant recalled some experiences that had him question the credibility of Robbins. For instance, the participant questions the basis for some of the assertions made about Robbins' healthy diet system. There was also a demonstration at the seminar by one of Robbins' associates that was intended to show that the Electromagnetic field from a mobile phone can weaken an arm as part of the marketing of an EMF reduction device. James Randi calls the applied kinesiology used in the EMF demonstration a "scam.


The participant was also strongly encouraged to sign up for the next seminar, and then found that, for him, the period of time that the Robbins organization is required by law to provide him with the opportunity to cancel and obtain a refund was too short.


Another participant who attended an "Unleash the Power Within" seminar and describes himself as as "a former journalist" who is "greatly aware of being skeptical in all situations," writes: "To the critics who jumped on the bandwagon and then regretted it, where was your skepticism then? If all it takes is a weekend to get you excited enough to part with $10,000, then I'd have to say (a) some part of you got something out of it, and (b) you're looking for someone else to place the responsibility on."


He concludes: "....I found value in the program, and ... I'm a natural skeptic. Some people are going to go, and hate it. Some people left by the 2nd day, and some on the 3rd. But everyone who stayed all the way through, I found, had a pretty rewarding experience. And I find it beyond insulting to think that everyone there was misled, stupid and/or ignorant enough to be mindlessly swayed as is being suggested."


Freelance writer Steve Salerno in his book Sham: How the Self-Help Movement Made America Helpless, states "NLP has shown up in many settings inside and outside SHAM" (his acronym for the Self-Help and Actualization Movement) but he particularly criticizes Anthony (Tony) Robbins, who he claims "made NLP his own, refining it and personalizing it into what he christened "neuroassociative conditioning" (a claim with which other proponents of NLP would disagree; see history section in NLP article). Salerno criticizes proponents of self-help, including Tony Robbins, stating it "actually fans the fires of discontent (whilst discontent is a strong thing used in Tony Robbins' philosophy i.e. applied leverage), making people feel impaired or somehow deficient as a prelude to (supposedly) curing them." Salerno opines that there are contradictions in Richard Bandler and John Grinder (the co-founders of NLP) ending up in court over who owned the rights to NLP given NLP's promotion in business for negotiations and conflict resolution and also in Tony Robbins having become divorced while marketing products for the "perfect marriage".


William T. Jarvis identifies what he believes are several flaws and misconceptions in the ideas, in particular about health and diet, in Robbins' US national best seller, Unlimited Power*: The New Science Of Personal Achievement. Robbins believes that deep breathing activates the lymphatic system, and likens the lymphatic system to the sewerage system of the body. Jarvis states that there is no evidence that different breathing makes long-lasting changes in the lymphatic system, but that any effects are temporary. Jarvis agrees with Robbins' encouraging participants to eat more fruit, but criticizes the way it is presented. According to Jarvis, Robbins incorrectly argues that fruit is the perfect food. In contrast Jarvis argues that milk is the closest to being the most complete food. Jarvis states that some of the information about drinking distilled water gives an inaccurate view of how the body metabolic wastes system functions. Jarvis believes that there are misconceptions about health benefits of food combining, which are supposedly based on Herbert Shelton's ideas, and that Robbins' evidence of a positive effect of undereating is flawed. Jarvis also writes that Robbins makes inaccurate claims about dietary protein requirements...

4. I would call up Catholic Answers and talk with a staff apolo-
gist who is very familiar with what Mr. Robbins does and see if
they have any insights.

Hope this helps.
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Old Nov 10, '08, 7:51 am
Jehanne Darc Jehanne Darc is offline
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Default Re: Is Listening to Anthony Robbins beneficial and safe to help with setting goals for making a living?

Thank you for your informative reply.

I gather that you did benefit somewhat from the goal setting suggestions. Those are the very things that I would like my husband and I to take a listen to. We have to be able to support our family somehow and I have to be at home for the next few years while the children are young. I find my husband has some attitudes that maybe this goal setting and action point oriented style might help mitigate.

I was hoping that maybe some of his negative attitudes that I have heard that Mr. Robbins does address maybe be readjusted.
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