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Old Nov 25, '08, 6:33 pm
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Is masturbation a mortal sin or a venial sin?
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Old Nov 25, '08, 6:35 pm
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Old Nov 25, '08, 6:42 pm
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Default Re: Is masterbation a mortal sin or a venial sin?

It depends . It is grave matter and there must be the three conditions filled for it to be a mortal sin.
  • Mortal sin is a sin of grave matter
  • Mortal sin is committed with full knowledge of the sinner
  • Mortal sin is committed with deliberate consent of the sinner
It might take a couple talks with a confessor/spiritual director to discern.
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Old Nov 25, '08, 6:46 pm
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For most people: Venial
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It depends . It is grave matter and there must be the three conditions filled for it to be a mortal sin.
  • Mortal sin is a sin of grave matter
  • Mortal sin is committed with full knowledge of the sinner
  • Mortal sin is committed with deliberate consent of the sinner
It might take a couple talks with a confessor/spiritual director to discern.
How would you define "fully consent and knowledge"? The term is kind of vague. Sometimes we just masturbate when we get to a point of great sexual drive and we just can't help ourselves. Is that a mortal sin in that case? What if sometimes we cannot control our sex drive and have premarital sex?
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Old Nov 25, '08, 8:06 pm
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For most people: Venial
I doubt that seriously.

It is objectively grave matter. It is mortal unless the person either doesn't know the Church teaching, or is so addicted they can't stop.

I'd imagine that's a pretty small subset of the world.

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Old Nov 25, '08, 8:12 pm
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Default Re: Is masterbation a mortal sin or a venial sin?

Let's ask the Catechism:

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2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action." "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."


To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.
So...is it "grave matter"? Yes.

Is it done with full knowledge of the offense? Maybe yes, maybe no.

Is it done with full consent of the will? It depends.on several factors which must be taken into account.

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Old Nov 25, '08, 8:16 pm
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Is masturbation a mortal sin or a venial sin?
Objectively - a mortal sin.

Subjectively - only your confessor can tell you whether it's mortal or venial in YOUR INDIVIDUAL case. Once your confessor has spoken, it's irrelevant what other people THINK is the case.
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I doubt that seriously.

It is objectively grave matter. It is mortal unless the person either doesn't know the Church teaching, or is so addicted they can't stop.

I'd imagine that's a pretty small subset of the world.

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I agree, I would error on the side of it being a grave sin to be safe. A priest really should be making this decision...
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Old Nov 25, '08, 8:29 pm
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I doubt that seriously.

It is objectively grave matter. It is mortal unless the person either doesn't know the Church teaching, or is so addicted they can't stop.

I'd imagine that's a pretty small subset of the world.

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What do you mean by "addicted"? We are all addicted somehow.
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What do you mean by "addicted"? We are all addicted somehow.
Biblically speaking, masturbation is a form of [mental] adultery, so it's apparently mortal. But that's just for the record.

I know this question was not directed at me, but keep in mind that, for the most part, masturbation is... natural for the teenage body. People get addicted to this quickfix to the point where it's like a drug. It relieves stress which is what other drugs can do-- just no horrible side effects.

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What do you mean by "addicted"? We are all addicted somehow.
Look at the third condition for something being a mortal sin:

Mortal sin is committed with deliberate consent of the sinner

Someone with a deep and profound addiction to something, may not be able to give their deliberate consent - precisely because of that addiction. Again, only the confessor can discern that in the confessional with the co-operation of the penitant.
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Biblically speaking, masturbation is a form of [mental] adultery, so it's apparently mortal. But that's just for the record.

I know this question was not directed at me, but keep in mind that, for the most part, masturbation is... natural for the teenage body. People get addicted to this quickfix to the point where it's like a drug. It relieves stress which is what other drugs can do-- just no horrible side effects.

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Don't the teenagers have to quit that addiction of masturbation? Should they indulge it because it relieves stress?
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Biblically speaking, masturbation is a form of [mental] adultery, so it's apparently mortal. But that's just for the record.
Yup.

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for the most part, masturbation is... natural for the teenage body.
I quite disagree. Sex is natural. Masturbation is false sex, just like bulimia is false eating.

There's nothing "natural" about masturbation. Just because a particular misuse of our faculties is common that doesn't make it "natural."

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There's nothing "natural" about masturbation. Just because a particular misuse of our faculties is common that doesn't make it "natural."

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*sigh* It's either that or premarital sex. You only get a precious few teens who are actually still virgins. Thank God, I am one of them.
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