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Old Feb 2, '09, 2:47 pm
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My children were taught in school to head each paper with the following symbol:

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They were told this represented:

<sign of the cross>
Jesus-Mary-Joseph

I've noticed recently another symbol some people use:

J.M.+J.T.

Any ideas what this stands for? I put it in the "Traditional Catholicism" section because the people who use this symbol appear to be very "traditional."
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Old Feb 3, '09, 12:08 am
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My children were taught in school to head each paper with the following symbol:

+
JMJ

They were told this represented:

<sign of the cross>
Jesus-Mary-Joseph

I've noticed recently another symbol some people use:

J.M.+J.T.

Any ideas what this stands for? I put it in the "Traditional Catholicism" section because the people who use this symbol appear to be very "traditional."
Certain religious orders sometimes add the name of a principal saint or holy founder after the JMJ. I've seen the JMJT on the letters/notices of Disc. Carmelite priests and I think for them it stands for Jesus, Mary, Joseph and Theresa. Are the people who use this by any chance, Third Order Carmelites?
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Old Feb 3, '09, 12:16 am
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As a child at a Catholic grade school in the 30's and 40's we always put the JMJ initials at the top of our school papers. Our teachers were Sisters of several different Orders - St. Francis, Immaculate Heart, St. Joseph. The intials stood for Jesus, Mary, Joseph and was meant to be a prayer.

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Certain religious orders sometimes add the name of a principal saint or holy founder after the JMJ. I've seen the JMJT on the letters/notices of Disc. Carmelite priests and I think for them it stands for Jesus, Mary, Joseph and Theresa. Are the people who use this by any chance, Third Order Carmelites?

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I've heard it was John (of the Cross) and Teresa.
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Old Feb 3, '09, 1:35 am
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Old Feb 3, '09, 9:16 am
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Certain religious orders sometimes add the name of a principal saint or holy founder after the JMJ. I've seen the JMJT on the letters/notices of Disc. Carmelite priests and I think for them it stands for Jesus, Mary, Joseph and Theresa. Are the people who use this by any chance, Third Order Carmelites?
I double checked where I had seen this symbol (on letters sent to a traditional Catholic school), and all 5 examples were from Carmelite nuns or monasteries. I guess that answers my question. Thanks!
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The Discalced Carmelites use this-it means "Jesus, Mary + Joseph, Teresa"

When I used to correspond with a community of Discalced Carmelites, they always headed their letters that way.

And if you read letters from saintly Carmelites such as St. Therese or Blessed Elizabeth of the Trinity, you'll see it there, too.

I used to be in the lay branch of the Discalced Carmelites; so when I write personal letters to Catholic friends, I put "JMJ" with a small cross at the top of the first page.
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We use it also even though we are not DIscalced Carmelites. That's because our Mother Foundress had great devotion to St. Teresa and our Motherhouse is under the patronage of St. Teresa. So we use J.M.J.T
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You will also see AMDG- meaning For The Greater Glory of God

Motto of The Society of Jesus or Jesuits.
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You will also see AMDG- meaning For The Greater Glory of God

Motto of The Society of Jesus or Jesuits.
AMDG - Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam

That's what we always put on our pages, I suppose to impress on us that everything we did was to be for the greater glory of God.

I wonder if kids at Catholic schools still do this today?
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AMDG - Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam

That's what we always put on our pages, I suppose to impress on us that everything we did was to be for the greater glory of God.

I wonder if kids at Catholic schools still do this today?
Short answer? No.

Long answer? In "Catholic" schools they can't even read the honour boards mounted along the halls, because they're in Latin and who cares about Latin? In Jesuit schools there will sometimes be a student here or there who has an active interest in the Faith, stumbles upon this practice somewhere, adopts it for himself and either goes on to become a faithful Son of the Church in Holy Orders or has his vocation poisoned and abandons the faith.

Of course in the rare, more traditionally minded schools (be they successful fortresses against a century of modernism or just extremely new foundations) the staff delight in passing on devotional habits.

Even though I am a lay Dominican who studied at the worst of Sydney's socialist selective schools, I heard about AM+DG on a trip to the Philippines (my homeland). Most of the universities were founded and are still maintained by religious orders, notably the Dominicans (Sto Tomas, oldest in asia) and the Jesuits (Ateneo).
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The Discalced Carmelites use this-it means "Jesus, Mary + Joseph, Teresa"

When I used to correspond with a community of Discalced Carmelites, they always headed their letters that way.

And if you read letters from saintly Carmelites such as St. Therese or Blessed Elizabeth of the Trinity, you'll see it there, too.

I used to be in the lay branch of the Discalced Carmelites; so when I write personal letters to Catholic friends, I put "JMJ" with a small cross at the top of the first page.
My wife, an OCDS says it stands for Jesus, Mary, John (of the cross), Teresa (of avila). St Joe get's lost.

Jesus.. obviously included
Mary because of our Lady of Mt Carmel
John and Teresa founded the Order of Carmelites (Discalced).
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