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Old Feb 6, '09, 1:07 pm
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Default Chapter of a Book for Thought & Comment: Purgatory

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Purgatory, F.X. Schouppe, S.J. [Imprimatur & Nihil Obstat]

CHAPTER XV.

Pains of Purgatory - The Brother of St. Magdalen de
Pazzi - Stanislaus Chocosca - Blessed Catherine de
Racconigi.

ST. MAGDALEN DE PAZZI, in her celebrated vision, where
the different prisons of Purgatory were shown to her, saw
the soul of her brother, who had died after having led a
most fervent Christian life. Nevertheless, this soul was
detained in suffering for certain faults, which it had not
sufficiently expiated upon earth. These, says the saint, are
the most intolerable sufferings, and yet they are endured
with joy. Ah! why are they not understood by those who
lack the courage to bear their cross here below? Struck
with this frightful spectacle which she had just contem-
plated, she ran to her Prioress, and casting herself upon
her knees, she cried out, " O my dear Mother, how terrible
are the pangs of Purgatory! Never could I have believed
it, had not God manifested it to me. . . . And, neverthe-
less, I cannot call them cruel; rather are they advantageous,
since they lead to the ineffable bliss of Paradise." To
impress this more and more upon our minds, it has pleased
God to give certain holy persons a small share in the pains
of expiation, like a drop of the bitter cup which the poor
souls have to drink, a spark of the fire which consumes
them.

The historian Bzovius, in his History of Poland, under
the date 1598, relates a miraculous event which happened
to the Venerable Stanislaus Chocosca, one of the luminaries
of the Order of St. Dominic in Poland. One day, whilst
this Religious, full of charity for the departed, recited the
rosary, he saw appear near him a soul all enveloped in
flames. As she besought him to have pity on her, and to
alleviate the intolerable sufferings which the fire of Divine
Justice caused her to endure, the holy man asked her if
this fire was more painful than that of earth? "Ah!" she
cried, "all the fires of earth compared to that of Purgatory
are like a refreshing breeze" (Ignes alii levis aurae locum
tenent si cum ardore meo comparentur). Stanislaus could
scarcely believe it. "I wish," he said, " to have a proof.
If God will permit, for your relief, and for the good of my
soul, I consent to suffer a part of your pains." "Alas!
you could not do this. Know that no human being could
endure such torment and live. However, God will permit
you to feel it in a light degree. Stretch forth your hand."
Chocosca extended his hand, and the departed let fall a
drop of sweat, or at least of a liquid which resembled it.
At the same instant the Religious uttered a piercing cry and
fell fainting to the ground, so frightfully intense was the pain.
His brethren ran to the spot and hastened to give him the
assistance which his condition required. When restored
to consciousness, he related the terrible event which had
occurred, and of which they had a visible proof. "Ah! my
dear Fathers," he continued, "if we knew the severity of
the Divine chastisements, we should never commit sin,
nor should we cease to do penance in this life, in order
to avoid expiation in the next."

Stanislaus was confined to his bed from that moment.
He lived one year longer in the most cruel suffering caused
by his terrible wound ; then, for the last time, exhorting
his brethren to remember the rigours of Divine Justice, he
peacefully slept in the Lord. The historian adds that this
example reanimated fervour in all the monasteries of that
province.
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Old Feb 6, '09, 1:14 pm
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Default Re: Chapter of a Book for Thought & Comment: Purgatory

My thoughts on this.. . I remember the angel of Akita, and think about some sermons I have heard on the value of penance.

Repentance.. penance.. They go together, as if they were the same. The word is even translated this way, in the scriptures 'penance' instead of 'repentance' from the Vulgate.

So you cannot have repentance without penance. Why would this be? Because we Catholics understand that we have to take part in the sufferings of Christ, that in fact His crucifixion opened the gates of Heaven.. . but did not take away all the other punishment due sin because of justice.

When I read about the holy souls like these willingly doing penance, and the greatness of their pains I think about saints who willingly lived lives of great penance. . It is so rare today..

They did so for the sake of love of God and fellow man, and for their own soul's sake, which needed it.

I believe and hope that all the brethren, all of us should encourage one another more to do penance and to pray for the holy souls in Purgatory. I believe on earth we should be like the holy souls, we have a spirit of 'we cannot do enough' and should try to strengthen our souls so penance and mortification are part of our lives.

I am glad Lent is coming soon. Let us find new ways to engage in healthy penance!
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Default Re: Chapter of a Book for Thought & Comment: Purgatory

Reading the Chapter you posted is a reminder to me of how important it is to pray for the holy souls in purgatory. It is one of our obligations as Catholics to remember our departed brothers and sisters in Christ, but to also pray for those who have no one to pray for them.

God is infinitely merciful and infinitely just. I guess it just makes me ponder the sinfulness of our human nature, how we must continually strive to find God's will, visit the sacraments and struggle against that which would seperate us from Him.

You make a good point about Lent. It is great time to renew our penance and spiritual life and pray for the souls of the faithful departed, as well as the conversion of sinners.

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