The Wedding of Jesus

[Ben Masada]

THE WEDDING OF JESUS


Jesus was a Rabbi and here are the proofs: Matthew 23:7; John 1:38; 3:2; 20:16. The point is that a Rabbi in Israel had to be a married man. Then, according to Judaism, after the proper procedures, the Jewish prospect would undergo the ceremonial "mikveh" or immersion in waters before ordination.

After Jesus' immersion in the Jordan River by John the Baptist, Jesus was seen during the next two days on his way to Galilee. (John 1:35,43) Then on the third day after his "mikveh" the family and friends were celebrating his wedding in Cana with Mary Magdalene.

According to the custom, the mother of the Bride would be in charge of the celebrations, but probably Mary's parents had passed away because she used to live with her sister Martha and brother Lazarus in Bethany. I mean, they used to live with Mary who was the one well-to-do. Martha would pay her room-and-board as a maiden servant, and Lazarus... well, I think he was a loafer boy taking advantage of his rich sister. He was probably a sick man anyway.

Back to the wedding, Jesus' mother Mary had to do the host job; and she did it quite well by giving orders around to the servants. Also, according to the custom, the Bridegroom was in charge to provide the wine, which mind you, Jesus made sure it was of the best quality. The tale of the miracle was interpolated much later to deviate the probing attention of those who have a mind of their own to find out what was really going on in Canah.

After Jesus' wedding, you can check for yourselves, all Jesus' come-and-goes were from and to Bethany, the home of Mary Magdalene. Then, whenever Jesus would return from his missionary campains throughout Israel, the address was Bethany. To his wife obviously, although most the time Mary Magdalene would follow Jesus as his beloved disciple. The Church later interpolated John as the "beloved disciple" for the same reason to get the mind of the readers away from the thought that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.

Do we have any evidence of a romantic approach prior or after their wedding? Of course, we do! After Jesus exorcized seven demons from Mary, she must have fallen in love with him. (Luke 8:1-3) The expression "seven demons" means the struggle that Jesus had to go through to extricate Mary from her not-so-reputable business in Magdala.

Then, in Bethany when Mary was smearing Jesus' body with that expensive pefume, we all know, that Mary did not just throw that perfume at him from afar. Definitely not! she did smear him almost all over even in terms of massage, so much so that some of the guests thought it to be unbecoming. (Mat. 26:10-13)

Then, while everyone else would address Jesus as Rabbi, Mary would call him "Rabboni," a colloquial term used as an expression of love, especially by a Rabbi's wife. It also means "Master of my suffering," as Rachel named her son Benoni before she died from child birth. (Gen. 35:18)

In another occasion, when Mary went to the tomb area after the crucifixion, and saw the empty tomb, she never suffered more in her life. She wanted to take him away with her. (John 20:15) Then, she was crying without consolation. In the middle of her travails, she saw a man standing by and throught to be the Gardener. "Why are you crying?" the man asked. Alas! She did not identify him; it was too dark. But then Jesus tried her name the way he used to call her: "Mary...!" It's hard to say it in writing, but Mary melted all down and exclaimed" "Raboni!"

This term "Raboni", or Master of my sufferings, is such a solemn and love-tender expression in Hebrew and Aramaic that only seldom is used out of the frame of deep love. It was then that she jumped to hug him but Jesus, probably all in bandages, forbade her to cause him any unnecessary pain. He would meet her later at more propitious circumstances. (John 20:17)

Then, after some apparitions to the disciples, Jesus said goodbye and left the company. From then on, the names of these three peoples were never mentioned again; Jesus, Mary Magdalene and Joseph of Arimathea. Jesus yes, but only in connection with his teachings by the Nazarenes, a Jewish Sect founded by his Apostles. Joseph had to go along because if he had stayed, he would probably be crucified for having cheated on Pilate regarding Jesus who was not dead when he took him off the cross.

Today, there are three speculations about their whereabouts. The first is that they settled down incognito in Talpiot, a small town not too far south of Jerusalem, where some people have claimed to have found out the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Joseph. I went there personally but just to be told that the area could not be explored or visited by order of the local Meier for being under an Apartment building.

The second speculation is that they left Israel in the direction of Cashmere, India, where a Russian Archaeologist is claimed to have found the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Joseph under the sign of the shield of David.

And the third, speculation is the one of the Da Vinci Code, that the three went to Europe and settled down in the Southern part of France in a small village. And that Mary gave birth to a daughter, who eventually got married into the Merovingian nobility.

Whatever happened after Jesus said goodbye to his disciples, I don't endorse anything that has been speculated. My point is only to verify the truth about Jesus' marriage to Mary Magdalene. If that's true without the shadow of a doubt, we have only to be joyful that Jesus fulfilled also the commandment to get married and father children. Besides, a married man only adds to his honour for being so.


Ben:

[paarsurrey]

Originally Posted by Ben Masada

THE WEDDING OF JESUS

Jesus was a Rabbi and here are the proofs: Matthew 23:7; John 1:38; 3:2; 20:16. The point is that a Rabbi in Israel had to be a married man. Then, according to Judaism, after the proper procedures, the Jewish prospect would undergo the ceremonial "mikveh" or immersion in waters before ordination.

After Jesus' immersion in the Jordan River by John the Baptist, Jesus was seen during the next two days on his way to Galilee. (John 1:35,43) Then on the third day after his "mikveh" the family and friends were celebrating his wedding in Cana with Mary Magdalene.

According to the custom, the mother of the Bride would be in charge of the celebrations, but probably Mary's parents had passed away because she used to live with her sister Martha and brother Lazarus in Bethany. I mean, they used to live with Mary who was the one well-to-do. Martha would pay her room-and-board as a maiden servant, and Lazarus... well, I think he was a loafer boy taking advantage of his rich sister. He was probably a sick man anyway.

Back to the wedding, Jesus' mother Mary had to do the host job; and she did it quite well by giving orders around to the servants. Also, according to the custom, the Bridegroom was in charge to provide the wine, which mind you, Jesus made sure it was of the best quality. The tale of the miracle was interpolated much later to deviate the probing attention of those who have a mind of their own to find out what was really going on in Canah.

After Jesus' wedding, you can check for yourselves, all Jesus' come-and-goes were from and to Bethany, the home of Mary Magdalene. Then, whenever Jesus would return from his missionary campains throughout Israel, the address was Bethany. To his wife obviously, although most the time Mary Magdalene would follow Jesus as his beloved disciple. The Church later interpolated John as the "beloved disciple" for the same reason to get the mind of the readers away from the thought that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.

Do we have any evidence of a romantic approach prior or after their wedding? Of course, we do! After Jesus exorcized seven demons from Mary, she must have fallen in love with him. (Luke 8:1-3) The expression "seven demons" means the struggle that Jesus had to go through to extricate Mary from her not-so-reputable business in Magdala.

Then, in Bethany when Mary was smearing Jesus' body with that expensive pefume, we all know, that Mary did not just throw that perfume at him from afar. Definitely not! she did smear him almost all over even in terms of massage, so much so that some of the guests thought it to be unbecoming. (Mat. 26:10-13)

Then, while everyone else would address Jesus as Rabbi, Mary would call him "Rabboni," a colloquial term used as an expression of love, especially by a Rabbi's wife. It also means "Master of my suffering," as Rachel named her son Benoni before she died from child birth. (Gen. 35:18)

In another occasion, when Mary went to the tomb area after the crucifixion, and saw the empty tomb, she never suffered more in her life. She wanted to take him away with her. (John 20:15) Then, she was crying without consolation. In the middle of her travails, she saw a man standing by and throught to be the Gardener. "Why are you crying?" the man asked. Alas! She did not identify him; it was too dark. But then Jesus tried her name the way he used to call her: "Mary...!" It's hard to say it in writing, but Mary melted all down and exclaimed" "Raboni!"

This term "Raboni", or Master of my sufferings, is such a solemn and love-tender expression in Hebrew and Aramaic that only seldom is used out of the frame of deep love. It was then that she jumped to hug him but Jesus, probably all in bandages, forbade her to cause him any unnecessary pain. He would meet her later at more propitious circumstances. (John 20:17)

Then, after some apparitions to the disciples, Jesus said goodbye and left the company. From then on, the names of these three peoples were never mentioned again; Jesus, Mary Magdalene and Joseph of Arimathea. Jesus yes, but only in connection with his teachings by the Nazarenes, a Jewish Sect founded by his Apostles. Joseph had to go along because if he had stayed, he would probably be crucified for having cheated on Pilate regarding Jesus who was not dead when he took him off the cross.

Today, there are three speculations about their whereabouts. The first is that they settled down incognito in Talpiot, a small town not too far south of Jerusalem, where some people have claimed to have found out the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Joseph. I went there personally but just to be told that the area could not be explored or visited by order of the local Meier for being under an Apartment building.

The second speculation is that they left Israel in the direction of Cashmere, India, where a Russian Archaeologist is claimed to have found the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Joseph under the sign of the shield of David.

And the third, speculation is the one of the Da Vinci Code, that the three went to Europe and settled down in the Southern part of France in a small village. And that Mary gave birth to a daughter, who eventually got married into the Merovingian nobility.

Whatever happened after Jesus said goodbye to his disciples, I don't endorse anything that has been speculated. My point is only to verify the truth about Jesus' marriage to Mary Magdalene. If that's true without the shadow of a doubt, we have only to be joyful that Jesus fulfilled also the commandment to get married and father children. Besides, a married man only adds to his honour for being so.

Ben:

Hi

Thank you for this wonderful post.

Regards

[Eucharisted]

Cracking the Da Vinci Code

[Cluny]

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After Jesus' immersion in the Jordan River by John the Baptist, Jesus was seen during the next two days on his way to Galilee. (John 1:35,43) Then on the third day after his "mikveh" the family and friends were celebrating his wedding in Cana with Mary Magdalene.**

Jesus fasted for forty days after His "mikveh" (perfectly good word in this context), so he didn't go to Galilee on the third day after it.

And He didn't marry anybody.

The wedding according to Orthodox tradition was that of Simon the Zealot.

[Ben Masada]

Originally Posted by Cluny

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After Jesus' immersion in the Jordan River by John the Baptist, Jesus was seen during the next two days on his way to Galilee. (John 1:35,43) Then on the third day after his "mikveh" the family and friends were celebrating his wedding in Cana with Mary Magdalene.**

fasted for forty days after His "mikveh" (perfectly good word in this context), so he didn't go to Galilee on the third day after it.

And He didn't marry anybody.

The wedding according to Orthodox tradition was that of Simon the Zealot.

I know Cluny, but that's according to the first three gospels. The fourth gospel does not acknowledge those 40 days of fast in the wilderness. If fasting was what Jesus was doing and not feasting in Cana, you are going to discard the fourth gospel. Then, your NT will have only three gospels. Are you ready for that? I didn't think so. Then, you are in trouble.

Now, if you insist that Jesus did not get married, he broke a commandment. The first ever given to grow and multiply. (Gen. 1:28) If Jesus did not fulfill that commandment, then what are you going to do with Matthew 5:17-19 when he said that he had come to fulfill all the laws to the letter? Big trouble, don't you think so?

Ben:

[LilyM]

Originally Posted by Ben Masada

I know Cluny, but that's according to the first three gospels. The fourth gospel does not acknowledge those 40 days of fast in the wilderness. If fasting was what Jesus was doing and not feasting in Cana, you are going to discard the fourth gospel. Then, your NT will have only three gospels. Are you ready for that? I didn't think so. Then, you are in trouble.

Now, if you insist that Jesus did not get married, he broke a commandment. The first ever given to grow and multiply. (Gen. 1:28) If Jesus did not fulfill that commandment, then what are you going to do with Matthew 5:17-19 when he said that he had come to fulfill all the laws to the letter? Big trouble, don't you think so?

Ben:

The fourth Gospel is the only one that mentions the wedding - it certainly doesn't state that the wedding was less than 40 days after His baptism, so it doesn't conflict with the other three. No need for discarding.

Note that Jesus Himself said that some people make themselves eunuchs (celibate) for the sake of the Kingdom of God. Sounds like vows of celibacy (perhaps among the Nazirites at least?) weren't exactly unknown.

In fact doesn't Leviticus mention something to the effect that if a woman vowed celibacy to God and her husband was OK with it she could keep that vow even though married? Surely a vow not to marry at all is not too much of a leap to make.

Even if His celibacy WAS a departure from accepted Jewish norms, it wouldn't be the only one He is recorded as making in the Gospels He touched menstruating women and dead people, allowed His disciples to eat with unwashed hands etc etc.

As for the insinuation that having 'reformed' Mary from a disreputable life of sexual deviancy He necessarily married her - that would be news to many respectable Christian clergymen (and society matrons) who in 19th century Europe and America made a veritable industry out of 'rescuing fallen women' - and certainly didn't proceed to fall in love with or marry them!

[Ben Masada]

Originally Posted by LilyM

The fourth Gospel is the only one that mentions the wedding - it certainly doesn't state that the wedding was less than 40 days after His baptism, so it doesn't conflict with the other three. No need for discarding.

Why don't you follow that sequence in a) John 1:29: The next day, when John..." Next day after what? Then b) John 1:35: "The next day John was there again..." Next day after what? Then, c) John 1:43: "The next day he wanted to..." Next day after what? Then John 4:1: "On the third day there was a..."
On the third day after what? Would you please answer these questions?

Note that Jesus Himself said that some people make themselves eunuchs (celibate) for the sake of the Kingdom of God. Sounds like vows of celibacy (perhaps among the Nazirites at least?) weren't exactly unknown.

Jesus was no Nazirite. Nazirites don't dring wine.
Jesus, mind you, enjoyed a good wine. (Mat. 11:19)

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n fact doesn't Leviticus mention something to the effect that if a woman vowed celibacy to God and her husband was OK with it she could keep that vow even though married? Surely a vow not to marry at all is not too much of a leap to make.

To Jesus it was. He was a Rabbi and Rabbis, especially in the First Century had to be married. Then, it was not honorable for a single Rabbi to room around with 12 guys for almost four years.

As for the insinuation that having 'reformed' Mary from a disreputable life of sexual deviancy He necessarily married her - that would be news to many respectable Christian clergymen (and society matrons) who in 19th century Europe and America made a veritable industry out of 'rescuing fallen women' - and certainly didn't proceed to fall in love with or marry them!

Good! That's more to Jesus' credibility. If Jesus had got married and he loved Mary Magdalene, it doesn't mater what kind of woman she was before marrying him. She became as virtuous and dedicated to her husband as any other woman who had come from a condition of virginity. They loved each other and that's all that counts.

Ben:

[Fidelis]

What an imagination.

This stuff has been refuted so many times in the last several years, it's no longer amusing.

[wisdomseeker]

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QUOTE=Ben Masada;4810829]THE WEDDING OF JESUS


Jesus was a Rabbi and here are the proofs: Matthew 23:7; John 1:38; 3:2; 20:16. The point is that a Rabbi in Israel had to be a married man. Then, according to Judaism, after the proper procedures, the Jewish prospect would undergo the ceremonial "mikveh" or immersion in waters before ordination.

After Jesus' immersion in the Jordan River by John the Baptist, Jesus was seen during the next two days on his way to Galilee. (John 1:35,43) Then on the third day after his "mikveh" the family and friends were celebrating his wedding in Cana with Mary Magdalene.

According to the custom, the mother of the Bride would be in charge of the celebrations, but probably Mary's parents had passed away because she used to live with her sister Martha and brother Lazarus in Bethany. I mean, they used to live with Mary who was the one well-to-do. Martha would pay her room-and-board as a maiden servant, and Lazarus... well, I think he was a loafer boy taking advantage of his rich sister. He was probably a sick man anyway.

Back to the wedding, Jesus' mother Mary had to do the host job; and she did it quite well by giving orders around to the servants. Also, according to the custom, the Bridegroom was in charge to provide the wine, which mind you, Jesus made sure it was of the best quality. The tale of the miracle was interpolated much later to deviate the probing attention of those who have a mind of their own to find out what was really going on in Canah.

After Jesus' wedding, you can check for yourselves, all Jesus' come-and-goes were from and to Bethany, the home of Mary Magdalene. Then, whenever Jesus would return from his missionary campains throughout Israel, the address was Bethany. To his wife obviously, although most the time Mary Magdalene would follow Jesus as his beloved disciple. The Church later interpolated John as the "beloved disciple" for the same reason to get the mind of the readers away from the thought that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene.

Do we have any evidence of a romantic approach prior or after their wedding? Of course, we do! After Jesus exorcized seven demons from Mary, she must have fallen in love with him. (Luke 8:1-3) The expression "seven demons" means the struggle that Jesus had to go through to extricate Mary from her not-so-reputable business in Magdala.

Then, in Bethany when Mary was smearing Jesus' body with that expensive pefume, we all know, that Mary did not just throw that perfume at him from afar. Definitely not! she did smear him almost all over even in terms of massage, so much so that some of the guests thought it to be unbecoming. (Mat. 26:10-13)

Then, while everyone else would address Jesus as Rabbi, Mary would call him "Rabboni," a colloquial term used as an expression of love, especially by a Rabbi's wife. It also means "Master of my suffering," as Rachel named her son Benoni before she died from child birth. (Gen. 35:18)

In another occasion, when Mary went to the tomb area after the crucifixion, and saw the empty tomb, she never suffered more in her life. She wanted to take him away with her. (John 20:15) Then, she was crying without consolation. In the middle of her travails, she saw a man standing by and throught to be the Gardener. "Why are you crying?" the man asked. Alas! She did not identify him; it was too dark. But then Jesus tried her name the way he used to call her: "Mary...!" It's hard to say it in writing, but Mary melted all down and exclaimed" "Raboni!"

This term "Raboni", or Master of my sufferings, is such a solemn and love-tender expression in Hebrew and Aramaic that only seldom is used out of the frame of deep love. It was then that she jumped to hug him but Jesus, probably all in bandages, forbade her to cause him any unnecessary pain. He would meet her later at more propitious circumstances. (John 20:17)

Then, after some apparitions to the disciples, Jesus said goodbye and left the company. From then on, the names of these three peoples were never mentioned again; Jesus, Mary Magdalene and Joseph of Arimathea. Jesus yes, but only in connection with his teachings by the Nazarenes, a Jewish Sect founded by his Apostles. Joseph had to go along because if he had stayed, he would probably be crucified for having cheated on Pilate regarding Jesus who was not dead when he took him off the cross.

Today, there are three speculations about their whereabouts. The first is that they settled down incognito in Talpiot, a small town not too far south of Jerusalem, where some people have claimed to have found out the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Joseph. I went there personally but just to be told that the area could not be explored or visited by order of the local Meier for being under an Apartment building.

The second speculation is that they left Israel in the direction of Cashmere, India, where a Russian Archaeologist is claimed to have found the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Joseph under the sign of the shield of David.

And the third, speculation is the one of the Da Vinci Code, that the three went to Europe and settled down in the Southern part of France in a small village. And that Mary gave birth to a daughter, who eventually got married into the Merovingian nobility.

Whatever happened after Jesus said goodbye to his disciples, I don't endorse anything that has been speculated. My point is only to verify the truth about Jesus' marriage to Mary Magdalene. If that's true without the shadow of a doubt, we have only to be joyful that Jesus fulfilled also the commandment to get married and father children. Besides, a married man only adds to his honour for being so.


Ben:

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very impressive. but that is not what the Church teaches about Jesus.

BLESSED TO BE CATHOLIC.

[Graubo3]

Originally Posted by paarsurrey

Hi

Thank you for this wonderful post.

Regards

A wonderful endorsement that speaks volumes!

Peace, Graubo

[FCEGM]

Originally Posted by Fidelis

What an imagination.

This stuff has been refuted so many times in the last several years, it's no longer amusing.

And it definitely comes under the heading "anti-Catholic proselytizing".

[PatienceAndLove]

*rubs temples* the leaps of circular logic hurt!

[puzzleannie]

Originally Posted by Ben Masada

According to the custom, the mother of the Bride would be in charge of the celebrations, but probably Mary's parents had passed away because she used to live with her sister Martha and brother Lazarus in Bethany. I mean, they used to live with Mary who was the one well-to-do. Martha would pay her room-and-board as a maiden servant, and Lazarus... well, I think he was a loafer boy taking advantage of his rich sister. He was probably a sick man anyway.

Ben:

we know you specialize in trashing Christian scripture, we got that, but how, under the influence of what drug, do you get off identifying Mary, the mother of Jesus, with Mary of Bethany, sister of Martha and Lazarus? and where do you pick up your extra-biblical details. You do realize that Cana in Galilee is nowhere near Bethany.

oh why are we wasting our time.

thanks at least for posting on the proper forum--although we need a "I made up my own religion" forum for you folks

[inJESUS]

[quote]

Originally Posted by Ben Masada

The point is that a Rabbi in Israel had to be a married man.

yet if for whatever reason a candidate for the rabbinate hasn’t yet found his soul mate, that doesn’t automatically disqualify him.

we have only to be joyful that Jesus fulfilled also the commandment to get married and father children. Besides, a married man only adds to his honour for being so.

what about Jeremiah and Elijah ? did they break a commandmant?

The Jewish writer Philo of Alexandria described the Essenes as those who "repudiate marriage… for no one of the Essenes ever marries a wife." and he added: "This now is the enviable system of life of these Essenes, so that not only private individuals but even mighty kings, admiring the men, venerate their sect, and increase… the honors which they confer on them."
Which reveals that not all Jews of Jesus’ day considered marriage obligatory. In fact, those who wanted to avoid marriage for religious reasons were admired rather than condemned.


so you are building your theories based on the fact that every single Jew would be breaking a commandmant by not getting married which is a false premise.

[Valke2]

Marriage is not a requirement for a rabbi. Now or then. But it would be unusual for a rabbi to be unmarried.