Catholic FAQ


Latest Threads
newest posts



Go Back   Catholic Answers Forums > Archive > Archive > Faith and Finances: 2014
 

Welcome to Catholic Answers Forums, the largest Catholic Community on the Web.

Here you can join over 400,000 members from around the world discussing all things Catholic. Membership is open to all, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, who seek the Truth with Charity.

To gain full access, you must register for a FREE account. Registered members are able to:
  • Submit questions about the faith to experts from Catholic Answers
  • Participate in all forum discussions
  • Communicate privately with Catholics from around the world
  • Plus join a prayer group, read with the Book Club, and much more.
Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. So join our community today!

Have a question about registration or your account log-in? Just contact our Support Hotline.

 
 
Thread Tools Search Thread Display
  #1  
Old Feb 27, '09, 12:29 pm
LBH LBH is offline
Observing Member
 
Join Date: February 27, 2009
Posts: 2
Religion: Catholic
Default Tax deduction for mass intentions?

Are donations made in connection with mass intentions tax deductible?

There must be more to the question than I understand. Can someone shed light on it for me?

Last year, we asked that a mass be said for a relative who died, and, at that time, we made a voluntary donation to the church. The donation did not appear on our end of year statement, and when I questioned it, I was told that it wasn't deductible because it was in exchange for a service, saying a mass for a deceased relative. After reading all the IRS regulations I could find on the subject, it still looks to me like it should be deductible since we received only what the tax code calls "intangible religious benefit."
  #2  
Old Mar 4, '09, 10:29 am
ejlo1 ejlo1 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: December 8, 2008
Posts: 147
Religion: Catholic
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

You can't deduct it because the church did someting you requested in exchange for the donation.

The "intangible religous benefit" mentioned in the IRS code is more along the line of the graces and possible time off purgatory you might hope to receive by tithing and alms giving.
  #3  
Old Mar 4, '09, 1:42 pm
LBH LBH is offline
Observing Member
 
Join Date: February 27, 2009
Posts: 2
Religion: Catholic
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

Thanks.
  #4  
Old Mar 4, '09, 3:28 pm
mommyof4's Avatar
mommyof4 mommyof4 is offline
Veteran Member
Prayer Warrior
 
Join Date: September 6, 2006
Posts: 11,725
Religion: Roman Catholic
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ejlo1 View Post
You can't deduct it because the church did someting you requested in exchange for the donation.

The "intangible religous benefit" mentioned in the IRS code is more along the line of the graces and possible time off purgatory you might hope to receive by tithing and alms giving.
Wow, I've never heard of that before.
__________________
Give praise to the Lord, for He is good: for His mercy endureth forever.

http://www.knocknovena.com/index.htm

Wife of 1
Mommy of 4
Slave to 11 chickens, 5 cats, 2 pigs, and 1 dog
  #5  
Old Apr 14, '12, 5:31 pm
Steve Shannon Steve Shannon is offline
Trial Membership
 
Join Date: April 14, 2012
Posts: 2
Religion: Catholic
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

Mass stipends are deductible, as noted by Sandra Day O'Conner in a dissenting opinion on a Supreme Court decision regarding the deduction of costs spent on auditing classes by another church. See this link
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopicg90.pdf
Quote:
"Rev. Rul. 78-366, 1978-2 C.B. 241, is also cited since it provides that mass stipends as fixed payments for specific religious services are deductible."
  #6  
Old Apr 14, '12, 9:17 pm
Sunbreak Sunbreak is offline
Regular Member
 
Join Date: March 26, 2008
Posts: 3,109
Religion: Catholic
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

I would say no, you can't deduct it. The reason why I say this is that in some dioceses, the priest gets to keep some or all of the money for mass intentions. So it isn't going to the church, it's going to him.
  #7  
Old Apr 15, '12, 7:34 am
poiu741 poiu741 is offline
Trial Membership
 
Join Date: April 15, 2012
Posts: 5
Religion: Protestant
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

You can't deduct it because the church did someting you requested in exchange for the donation.
  #8  
Old Apr 15, '12, 8:12 am
1ke 1ke is offline
Forum Elder
 
Join Date: May 25, 2004
Posts: 24,646
Religion: Catholic
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Shannon View Post
Mass stipends are deductible, as noted by Sandra Day O'Conner in a dissenting opinion on a Supreme Court decision regarding the deduction of costs spent on auditing classes by another church. See this link
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopicg90.pdf
A very important part of tht ruling is that the stipend is deductible if it goes into the Church's general fund.

Mass stipends typically do not go into the general fund in parishes. They are in a separate bank account and paid only to the priest for the Masses as they are said. Now, perhaps if you send donations to a religious order that might be different, since order priests likely do not receive individual payments and that money supports the overall operations of the order.
__________________
Pax, ke

ke's universal disclaimer: In my posts, when I post about marriage, canon law, or sacraments I am talking about Latin Rite only, not the Orthodox and Eastern Rites. These are exceptions that confuse the issue and I am not talking about those.
  #9  
Old Apr 15, '12, 9:37 am
Steve Shannon Steve Shannon is offline
Trial Membership
 
Join Date: April 14, 2012
Posts: 2
Religion: Catholic
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ke View Post
A very important part of tht ruling is that the stipend is deductible if it goes into the Church's general fund.

Mass stipends typically do not go into the general fund in parishes. They are in a separate bank account and paid only to the priest for the Masses as they are said. Now, perhaps if you send donations to a religious order that might be different, since order priests likely do not receive individual payments and that money supports the overall operations of the order.
So really, the correct answer is "Maybe they are deductible", but it's up to the parishioner to ask if the money goes into the general fund. That seems a bit indiscernable to the person paying for the masses. The checks are made out to the church (at least they have been for the mass donations we made this year). What the church does with them is out of sight of the person who "purchases" the mass. I was not able to find the actual Revenue Ruling on the IRS site, even though I went through the revenue ruling archives available there. The only thing I have is the line that says "mass stipends as fixed payments for specific religious services are deductible." It seems to me that would be true regardless of whether the money makes its way to the priest or not. Based on that I intend to deduct mine (and quickly )
However, I am talking about masses purchased from the church secretary, with the check payable to the church. If I were to give a check to a priest, deacon, or sister because they performed a mass, wedding, funeral, rosary, etc. I agree, that is not deductible.
Peace
Steve
  #10  
Old Apr 15, '12, 9:40 am
Corki's Avatar
Corki Corki is offline
Forum Master
 
Join Date: November 22, 2005
Posts: 13,954
Religion: Catholic
Default Re: Tax deduction for mass intentions?

Quote:
Originally Posted by poiu741 View Post
You can't deduct it because the church did someting you requested in exchange for the donation.
As a general rule for taxes, you can only deduct the value of the donation in excess of the value of what you got in return. Although the Mass is priceless, it does not have a tangible dollar value so the entire amount would be a donation.
__________________
“Above all, the common outcry, which is justly made on behalf of human rights -- for example, the right to health, to home, to work, to family, to culture -- is false and illusory if the right to life, the most basic and fundamental right and the condition for all other personal rights, is not defended with maximum determination.” Saint John Paul II

"It is not “progressive” to try to resolve problems by eliminating a human life." Pope Francis
 

Go Back   Catholic Answers Forums > Archive > Archive > Faith and Finances: 2014

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search Thread
Search Thread:

Advanced Search
Display

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



Prayer Intentions

Most Active Groups
8458Meet and talk,talk talk
Last by: GLam8833
5145CAF Prayer Warriors Support Group
Last by: Vim71
4424Devotion to the Sorrowful Mother
Last by: DesertSister62
4037OCD/Scrupulosity Group
Last by: eschator83
3863SOLITUDE
Last by: beth40n2
3738Let's empty Purgatory
Last by: RJB
3322Petitions Before the Blessed Sacrament
Last by: Amiciel
3284Poems and Reflections
Last by: PathWalker
3224Catholic Vegetarians & Vegans
Last by: 4elise
3110For seniors and shut- ins
Last by: flower lady



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 4:52 am.

Home RSS Feeds - Home - Archive - Top

Copyright © 2004-2014, Catholic Answers.