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Jul 14, '09, 9:17 pm
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How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
Planned Parenthood and similar organizations receive steadily-rising subsidies from the government to provide "reproductive health services" -- a great bulk of which are abortions.
But part of that funding supports their efforts to propagandize to children and teens throughout the country, in the schools. Their profits depend on people's sexual activity and they do their best to promote its normalization and to neutralize its morality in the minds of the young (who will pass these values, or lack of them, to their children and children's children).
WHAT CAN WE DO? How can we stem this tide and begin to reverse the damage?
Here is an article about the International PP agenda:
Planned Parenthood is All About Sex
http://catholicexchange.com/2009/06/24/119770/
From the Planned Parenthood website - "Understanding Sexual Pleasure"
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/hea...sure-23902.htm
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Jul 14, '09, 10:59 pm
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
My daughter who is now 16 was first given sex education in school and at a community group for teens as young as 12, much to my surprise. I was as well, when I was in Grade 7 and onwards....
But most of my so called sex education came from girl friends who would talk about their sexual experiences. It also came from tv, books , magazines, movies etc
You get the picture. My parents never took me to any church as a child, but somehow I got the message from them that sex wasnt to be taken lightly and best left for marriage.
The friends I knew who were having sex, all had parents who told them to go on the pill at 16 and so forth...
My point...there's nothing you can do about all the **** out there that doesnt sit well with your morals as a parent.
My daughter is sixteen now and is not in any hurry to be in a sexual relationship and we have quite mature talks about how we feel about things.
If you have an open, honest relationship with your children and they know how you feel about sex, abortion, birth control etc...they will be much more affected by your influence than what society likes to call the norm,...
just my two cents...
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Jul 14, '09, 11:23 pm
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
The previous poster is right.
There has ALWAYS been sexual propaganda (or, if you'd rather) education in schools.
It used to take place in the lockerrooms, restrooms, and hallways.
Now it's in the classroom.
Do you have such a weak influence over your own children that you cannot counteract what you consider "propaganda"?
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Jul 14, '09, 11:59 pm
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
Well, since I have no kids of my own, I can only speak for my experience as a child, and my future hopes.
When it comes to reaching the youth of today, first thing we HAVE to do is introduce them to Christ. The temptations youth face from just their HORMONES is crushing enough. I am sorry to say that, at least in my area, the catholic church is failing miserably in this area. But I am not one to whine and do nothing, so I am getting involved myself to help this by creating bible studies and "adoration" serviced geared to getting youth fired up about christ.
Secondly, we HAVE to teach the young ones the things they will not hear in sex ed. As parents, people have to be willing to teach kids that a piece of flimsy latex will not guarantee their safetly, and while the odds are smaller, they are still playing russian roulette every time they hop in bed. Parents also need to invest in their children to show them that there are better things to do on a saturday night than the horizonal mambo.
Lastly, we need to have people prepared to work in the front lines. I myself went through a comprehensive sex ed class. However, the way the teacher taught it was brilliant. She was forced to give the song and dance about abortion, options, and contraceptives. But she stressed constantly that the ONLY way to avoid an unplanned pregnancy or an STI was to keep it in your pants. Then, when we covered STIs, she brought out pictures. Nothing will cool off the flame quicker than a good shot of acute oral herepes. It was one of the many things that kept me a virgin 'till my wedding night. I am currently traning to be an elementary school teacher, and I live in a comprehensive sex ed state. I think that if good, catholic teachers are running these classrooms, comprehensive sex ed can really help. You may have to talk about contraceptives, oh yes, but you can also put the truth into it. How little it protects, and how damaging it can be in the long run.
The truth is, we must, must, must, MUST get involved in the lives of the youth. You know the saying: "It takes a village to raise a child." As a church, we need to SHOW them how living as christ commanded is the ONLY way to fly. Especially to those youth who aren't getting it at home.
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Jul 15, '09, 10:51 am
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
I received my first sex ed class in the Third grade... I'm 28 now. We had to watch a video in school assembly that talked in great, graphic detail about sex, what it was, what happened, and STD, AIDS, etc. They distributed condoms for us to see and pictures of different female birth control methods. My parents pulled my siblings and I out of the public system the following year (for other reasons as well as the early sex ed.)
I'm sorry but 8-9 years old is inexcusably too early to be learning about sex.  I vividly remember kids going home stunned and shellshocked, scared that we were all going to get AIDS by holding hands. Sex Ed in schools needs to stop.
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Jul 15, '09, 11:58 am
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
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Originally Posted by TamaraSieja
I'm sorry but 8-9 years old is inexcusably too early to be learning about sex.
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Now that I could agree with. At my school, sex ed wasn't until 12th grade, when we already had at least 5 pregnancies among the seniors, and probably a few abortions, close calls, and drop outs. In my opinion, senior year is too late.
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Originally Posted by TamaraSieja
Sex Ed in schools needs to stop.
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Now here, I disagree. If we are going to teach students that they should eat whole grains and fresh fruits and veg and exercise regularly, for good health, then we also need to educate them about safer sex practices. Don't forget, safer sex isn't just for teenagers (who probably have difficulties getting sex partners), it's meant to be remembered when the young adults are in their 20's (by which time most of them have had sex).
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Jul 15, '09, 1:00 pm
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
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Originally Posted by TamaraSieja
I received my first sex ed class in the Third grade... I'm 28 now. We had to watch a video in school assembly that talked in great, graphic detail about sex, what it was, what happened, and STD, AIDS, etc. They distributed condoms for us to see and pictures of different female birth control methods. My parents pulled my siblings and I out of the public system the following year (for other reasons as well as the early sex ed.)
I'm sorry but 8-9 years old is inexcusably too early to be learning about sex.  I vividly remember kids going home stunned and shellshocked, scared that we were all going to get AIDS by holding hands. Sex Ed in schools needs to stop.
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Oh my gosh. THIRD grade?? Most my third graders don't even know where babies come from!!! Third grade is WAY too young! I was in fifth grade when we were told about sex, and the focus on that was mainly to explain what was going to be happening to us over the next few years. I actually got a lot from that because my parents never bothered to tell me a darn thing about periods, bras, development, or even the emotions I could be expecting to come with it. I think "sex" ed that teaches young men and women what is going on with their bodies is fine, but to distribute condoms to third graders is bordering criminal IMHO.
As with abortion, a change in legislation will come slowly, if at all. Especially in my liberal state. All we can do for now is to keep writing our representatives, and get invovled with out kids, and good catholics get in and volunteer to teach these kids, because they can teach it properly, rather than trust it to someone who is going to tell kids that sex is harmless fun and encourage it.
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Jul 20, '09, 12:10 pm
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
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Originally Posted by TamaraSieja
Sex Ed in schools needs to stop.
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I respect your opinion, but I disagree. Here's the way I see it: Which set of sexual knowledge would you rather have:
1. Rumors and gossip spread in locker rooms, hallways, lunch period, friends, etc....
2. Actual facts from someone who knows what they're talking about.
Am I advocating distribution contraceptives in school, absolutely not! I agree with a_cermak. If we're going to teach kids all this other stuff they're supposed to do to stay healthy, we should teach them what will happen if they follow the Nike rule (just do it).
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Jul 20, '09, 7:09 pm
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
Our public school district sends home letters about the content of all their "family life" courses and parents can opt their children out. It seems that every years enough are opted out to create a separate little class that learns about nutrition or wastewater processing in the library.
I agree that we should fight PP funding for school's "sex education". However, I don't see anything wrong with the health part of the course--this is how the process works part. Just like kids learn about this is how the cardiovascular system works.
However, it is very true that the parents are the first and most important educators of their children. We need to be discussing the morals at home! The dangers to their bodies and their souls.
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Jul 20, '09, 10:40 pm
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Re: How can we stop the sexual propaganda in the schools?
It seems to me (I could be wrong about this) that two different things are being discussed here: One is sex ed; the other is sexualizing kids. Not that I don't think parents should have a say in both: They should! But I see the sexualizing as much more harmful than mere "sex ed."
This is why my children went to Catholic schools, K-12 (among other reasons). First of all, I wanted sex in the classroom environment to be presented in a Catholic & moral context; second, I wanted them to be in an all-girls environment in high school. It may sound silly, but I saw no need for an abundance of dual-sex contact given the expectations of the culture - - the pressure, etc. Almost all of the girls in the high school who had boyfriends (from outside contacts) prior to enrolling in the high school, were having sex by sophomore year, and one was pregnant. It was as if boyfriend = sex, so any odd-girl-out felt pressured to conform as well.
The high school was by no means prudish, but in terms of rules, dances, graduation dresses & the like, they enforced modesty, and graduation dresses could not be low cut, strapless, etc. You had to actually bring the dress in for approval.
Single-sex schools, for many reasons, should be a public option in this country, but since the culture is so twisted about "rights," I doubt that that will be an option any time soon. ("I have a right to be prematurely sexualized."  )
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