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Old Jul 28, '09, 5:53 pm
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What Church Council declared that Mary is the Ever-Virgin? I know it was around 600s.
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What Church Council declared that Mary is the Ever-Virgin? I know it was around 600s.
I'm guessing it was Ephesus in the 400's, but I am guessing.
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It wasn't so much declaring or defining the perpetual virginity of the Theotokos at Ephesus (which was actually concerned with the title Theotokos), but this was mentioned in passing as something that clearly was believed and not in dispute.
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This Russian Orthodox site says it was at the "5th Ecumenical Council".


edit: apparently JPII also said the same thing, 2nd Council of Constantinople, 553 A.D.
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What Church Council declared that Mary is the Ever-Virgin? I know it was around 600s.
I believe it was the Lateran Council ca. 649 A.D. (which was of course not an ecumenical council).
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Diggerdomer appears to have it right. The Lateran Council of 649 formally declared the perpetual virginity of Mary. Earlier councils addressed other Marian dogma, but mostly in conjunction with the divinity of Christ and the Trinity. This dogma was also reaffirmed in Vatican II. That is a quick synopsis of what I found in a couple of Catholic reference sources.
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Thanks for the response. Man, I getting tired of the Protestants bashing Mary's Perpetual Virginity in the NCC Forum.
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Thanks for the response. Man, I getting tired of the Protestants bashing Mary's Perpetual Virginity in the NCC Forum.
Like it is going to dissuade us from any devotion of Her. I usually find it insulting and offensive. They do not have to believe, however at least they could respect our beliefs.
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Thanks for the response. Man, I getting tired of the Protestants bashing Mary's Perpetual Virginity in the NCC Forum.
I've often wondered what kind of hang up about sex some people must harbor in order to be so vehemently opposed to the idea that the Blessed Virgin remained a virgin throughout her life.

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I've often wondered what kind of hang up about sex some people must harbor in order to be so vehemently opposed to the idea that the Blessed Virgin remained a virgin throughout her life.

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It's not about sex, I think, it's about opposing anything the Church teaches.
If, at the time of the Deformation, Catholic churches were filled with plain crosses I'm sure there would be crucifixes in all protestant churches today.
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Mary’s virginity as a dogma was defined at the Lateran Council in 649. Pope Martin I proclaimed solemnly: Mary is virgin before, during and after the birth of Jesus.

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http://es.catholic.net/sacerdotes/43...o.php?id=19021
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I believe it was the Lateran Council ca. 649 A.D. (which was of course not an ecumenical council).
This link is the list of the major councils of the Church.
http://www.dailycatholic.org/history/councils.htm
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Thanks for the response. Man, I getting tired of the Protestants bashing Mary's Perpetual Virginity in the NCC Forum.
That's something I don't understand about such Protestants considering that the founding fathers of Protestantism ( Luther, Calvin and Zwingili) all declared in writing that Mary was a perpetual virgin.
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This link is the list of the major councils of the Church.
http://www.dailycatholic.org/history/councils.htm
Yes, those are the Councils the Catholic Church considers ecumenical. Was this a response to something I posted?
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Yes, those are the Councils the Catholic Church considers ecumenical. Was this a response to something I posted?
It was a supplement to what you posted.

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