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Jun 22, '04, 11:31 pm
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Re: Why do sedevacantists not believe the current Pope is true?
Joe Omlor and/or Irish Melkite,
Can you please give me a specific item/agenda/change/new law that was introduced or changed or refurbished at Vatican II, that makes the sedevacantists believe the Pope at that time and all others following including the current Pope are heretics.
I have been reading this thread and the other thread, and know now why you think what you do Joe, but I want a specific change.
You say ecumenism is one reason.
Ok, please tell me what was actually changed or introduced at VII, that makes you think it is a heresy.
I would appreciate a link to a site, or a quote.
Love Kellie
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Jun 22, '04, 11:42 pm
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Re: Why do sedevacantists not believe the current Pope is true?
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Jun 23, '04, 12:00 am
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Re: Why do sedevacantists not believe the current Pope is true?
Thank you Queen of Sheeba,
I will study these 25 errors, and do some research with the tracts I have from Catholic Answers and some other material, and try and see where the Pope at the time of VII was coming from.
Love Kellie
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Jun 23, '04, 12:09 am
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Re: Why do sedevacantists not believe the current Pope is true?
Just a quick note...
Cannot contradictions be merely defined statements?
Don't we learn as we go along through the centuries?
Can't God be helping us along the way understand His mystery?
Why are these so called contradictions called heresies?
Would there not be minutes of this Council that showed how all these ideas were thrashed around? Or is that not how the councils work?
Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know enough about these Councils.
Love Kellie
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Jun 24, '04, 2:09 pm
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Re: Why do sedevacantists not believe the current Pope is true?
Kellie,
If you have not done so already, you might also want to check out the debates on this very topic in other threads of this forum. The two in which I participated, along with some of the sedevacantists who have responded to you, consist of over 500 posts in which both sides presented detailed explanations of their views. Both of these posts are closed for posting but still open for viewing.
The first was titled "Would I be welcome here.... IF?"
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=1240
and the second was a continuation of the first after it was closed simply called "sedevacantism"
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=4355
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Jun 24, '04, 2:23 pm
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Re: Why do sedevacantists not believe the current Pope is true?
Well although everyone was very polite and charitable, the sedevacantists, the one who knew the facts, were banned from this board and their accounts disabled.
Makes you wonder why. I wonder now if I am not welcome after all. Like Vatican II teaches all are saved, except Traditional Catholics. Charity stops at the door of the Traditionalist, THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.
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Jun 24, '04, 2:56 pm
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Re: Why do sedevacantists not believe the current Pope is true?
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Originally Posted by theMutant
Kellie,
If you have not done so already, you might also want to check out the debates on this very topic in other threads of this forum. The two in which I participated, along with some of the sedevacantists who have responded to you, consist of over 500 posts in which both sides presented detailed explanations of their views. Both of these posts are closed for posting but still open for viewing.
The first was titled "Would I be welcome here.... IF?"
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=1240
and the second was a continuation of the first after it was closed simply called "sedevacantism"
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=4355 |
Go to http://www.catholic.co.nr and you can discuss the subject of a "sede vacante" without hindrance.
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