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Old Nov 10, '09, 8:17 pm
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Exclamation How old were Mary and Joseph at the time of Christ's birth?

Does Scripture give any answer to this question? I read on a "christian." website that Mary was 12 and Joseph was around 80 and went on to say it was found in the Catholic encyclopedia. Is this true?
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Old Nov 10, '09, 8:23 pm
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The Catholic Encyclopedia says that Mary was 12-14 and that Joseph was around 90 . . .

That's just my two cents.
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The late Archbishop Fulton Sheen called Mary the Mother of all Mothers.
Because; {"Mary"} is what God wanted us all to be, she speaks of herself as the eternal blueprint in the mind of God, the one whom God loved "before" she was a creature of God.
She is even pictured as being with Him not only at the beginning of Creation, but before Creation. She existed in the Divine Mind as an Eternal Thought before there were any mothers. She is the Mother of mothers. The closer one is to God, the greater the purity. But since ("no one") was even closer to God than the woman whose human portals he threw open to walk this earth; then "no one" could have been more pure than she being entirely Full of Grace.

This special purity of hers we call the Immaculate Conception. "The word "immaculate" is taken from two Latin words meaning ("not stained") "Conception" means that, at the first moment of her conception, the Blessed Mother in the womb of her mother Saint. Anne, and in virtue of the anticipated merits of the Redemption of her Son was preserved free from the stains of original sin.

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Old Nov 10, '09, 10:10 pm
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Is it just my computer or did a whole bunch of posts get deleted from this thread?
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Old Nov 10, '09, 10:14 pm
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Is it just my computer or did a whole bunch of posts get deleted from this thread?
RTD (Rapid thread drift).
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Old Nov 10, '09, 10:18 pm
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Does Scripture give any answer to this question? I read on a "christian." website that Mary was 12 and Joseph was around 80 and went on to say it was found in the Catholic encyclopedia. Is this true?
We don't know. Scripture gives no information.
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We don't know. Scripture gives no information.
Since scripture is quite incomplete (i.e. John 20:30, 21:25; Luke 3:18, Acts 2:40 and others), it is a blessing that we have Church tradition, otherwise we would know even less about such things.
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The Catholic Encyclopedia says that Mary was 12-14 and that Joseph was around 90 . . .

That's just my two cents.
But it qualifies that by saying these ages are found in UNRELIABLE apocryphal writings.
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Old Nov 11, '09, 5:07 am
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But it qualifies that by saying these ages are found in UNRELIABLE apocryphal writings.
Yup, I wasn't saying I agreed, just that the Catholic Encyclopedia says that.
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Mary was 15 and Joseph was 30
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Mary was 15 and Joseph was 30
How do you know that?
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Old Nov 11, '09, 7:26 am
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Mary will have been around 15, that was a normal age at that time for girls to get married.

I don't know about St. Joseph but 80/90 sounds a bit bonkers to me.
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But it qualifies that by saying these ages are found in UNRELIABLE apocryphal writings.
"Apocryphal" writings are those which are not considered "inspired", but all the same may be historically or factually accurate. From the lead of the Catholic Encyclopedia:
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Apocrypha.—The scope of this article takes in those compositions which profess to have been written either by Biblical personages or men in intimate relations with them.
http://oce.catholic.com/index.php?title=Apocrypha

Thus,the term "unreliable" may be undeserved. They are certainly not "inspired", or else they would be scripture. The following is from the Encyclopedia regarding Mary:
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"Jewish maidens were considered marriageable at the age of twelve years and six months, though the actual age of the bride varied with circumstances. The marriage was preceded by the betrothal, after which the bride legally belonged to the bridegroom, though she did not live with him till about a year later, when the marriage used to be celebrated."
It is supposed that Mary was thirteen or fourteen years of age at the time of the Nativity, although this is stated from usual cultural practices, and is not otherwise documented.

http://oce.catholic.com/index.php?ti...Blessed_Virgin
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Does Scripture give any answer to this question? I read on a "christian." website that Mary was 12 and Joseph was around 80 and went on to say it was found in the Catholic encyclopedia. Is this true?
There is no actual "proof" of either of their ages, although understanding customs of that day, a girl would be in her early to mid teens when she would be married and a man would be close to/or around 30-35.
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