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December 17, 2009




Thursday of the Third Week of Advent Lectionary: 193


Reading 1
Gn 49:2, 8-10


Jacob called his sons and said to them:
“Assemble and listen, sons of Jacob,
listen to Israel, your father.

“You, Judah, shall your brothers praise
–your hand on the neck of your enemies;
the sons of your father shall bow down to you.
Judah, like a lion’s whelp,
you have grown up on prey, my son.
He crouches like a lion recumbent,
the king of beasts–who would dare rouse him?
The scepter shall never depart from Judah,
or the mace from between his legs,
While tribute is brought to him,

and he receives the people’s homage.”

Responsorial Psalm
72:1-2, 3-4ab, 7-8, 17


R. (see 7) Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.
O God, with your judgment endow the king,
and with your justice, the king’s son;
He shall govern your people with justice
and your afflicted ones with judgment.
R. Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.
The mountains shall yield peace for the people,
and the hills justice.
He shall defend the afflicted among the people,
save the children of the poor.

R. Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.
Justice shall flower in his days,
and profound peace, till the moon be no more.
May he rule from sea to sea,
and from the River to the ends of the earth.
R. Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.
May his name be blessed forever;
as long as the sun his name shall remain.
In him shall all the tribes of the earth be blessed;
all the nations shall proclaim his happiness.
R. Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever.


Gospel
Mt 1:1-17


The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ,
the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Abraham became the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers.
Judah became the father of Perez and Zerah,
whose mother was Tamar.
Perez became the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,
Ram the father of Amminadab.
Amminadab became the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,
Salmon the father of Boaz,
whose mother was Rahab.
Boaz became the father of Obed,
whose mother was Ruth.
Obed became the father of Jesse,
Jesse the father of David the king.

David became the father of Solomon,
whose mother had been the wife of Uriah.
Solomon became the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asaph.
Asaph became the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Joram,
Joram the father of Uzziah.
Uzziah became the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah.
Hezekiah became the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amos,
Amos the father of Josiah.
Josiah became the father of Jechoniah and his brothers
at the time of the Babylonian exile.

After the Babylonian exile,
Jechoniah became the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
Zerubbabel the father of Abiud.
Abiud became the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
Azor the father of Zadok.
Zadok became the father of Achim,
Achim the father of Eliud,
Eliud the father of Eleazar.
Eleazar became the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary.
Of her was born Jesus who is called the Christ.

Thus the total number of generations
from Abraham to David
is fourteen generations;
from David to the Babylonian exile, fourteen generations;
from the Babylonian exile to the Christ,

fourteen generations.

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Justice shall flourish.

As it is in Heaven, so let it be on Earth
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Thus the total number of generations
from Abraham to David is fourteen generations;
from David to the Babylonian exile, fourteen generations;
from the Babylonian exile to the Christ, fourteen generations.
Of course, the ACTUAL number of generations are:

From Abe to Dave, 14;

From Dave to the Exile, 18;

From the Exile to Jesus, 13.

But since most Bible scholars believe the list to be fictitious anyway, who's counting?
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Of course, the ACTUAL number of generations are:

From Abe to Dave, 14;

From Dave to the Exile, 18;

From the Exile to Jesus, 13.

But since most Bible scholars believe the list to be fictitious anyway, who's counting?
so what else in the bible is considered ficticious??
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so what else in the bible is considered ficticious??
That would, I suppose, depend on who is doing the considering. But we could start with the two genealogies.

Matthew PROBABLY devised the artificial 14-14-14 arrangement because he was into gematria and the name DVD (the king, not the disc) has a numerical value of 14 in Hebrew. He did it by leaving out four generations between David and the Exile and by including between the Exile and Jesus one that he had already counted in the previous group. But then you already knew that, distracted.

Luke lists 55 generations from Abraham to Jesus to Matthew's 42, so obviously at least one of them is fictitious, and since it is unlikely that either writer could have had access to the actual complete list, it is reasonable to suppose that neither is completely factual.

Nor, of course, does Luke's list, which goes all the way back to Adam, take into consideration the nearly one million years of human existence prior to Adam's timeframe.
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