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Old Feb 20, '10, 11:16 am
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Default Looking at pornography- mortal sin?

What do y'all think-- is looking at porn a mortal sin? I imagine that the intent whenever anyone looks at porn is to get aroused. If you use porn for masturbating, then there's the clear mortal sin with the masturbation. But if someone just looks at some pornographic materials to get aroused, and then put is away without any....self abuse...how sinful is that, do you think? Are we in mortal sin territory here or no?

(FWIW, this is a theoretical question and isn't about me personally, or anyone I know in real life. )
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Check the Catechism, check what Scripture says about lust.
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What do y'all think-- is looking at porn a mortal sin? I imagine that the intent whenever anyone looks at porn is to get aroused. If you use porn for masturbating, then there's the clear mortal sin with the masturbation. But if someone just looks at some pornographic materials to get aroused, and then put is away without any....self abuse...how sinful is that, do you think? Are we in mortal sin territory here or no?

(FWIW, this is a theoretical question and isn't about me personally, or anyone I know in real life. )
yes...that is grave matter for mortal sin.
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Yes it is because it is lusting towards someone which is the opposite of Chastity. In today's society it is so hard for us guys because almost everytime we look at a girl it is hard to keep our minds pure.

Pray for us men of Christ that are striving to be chaste!
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from the Catechism:

2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.
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Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.
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2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.
Not to mention the adultery aspects of looking at porn if you are a married person.
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lol, wow.
I have to agree, it should be removed, yet it makes a great marketing tool and our society worships the all mighty buck, so we'll be subjected to soft core porn on just about every tv channel, radio station, newspaper, magazine, etc. it's what you don't recognize as being porn is the most dangerous part of our struggle with modern society.

We are not to tempt ourselves in any way, and looking at porn in any form is doing just that, the fact remains when Christ states that one can commit adultery with their eyes stands quite clear in this matter as well.
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What if we watch it frequently and feel a deep attraction for it,what should we do?

Should we just pray for help?

As humans dont we all have strong desires and attraction to the opposite sex and enjoy these physical pleasures?
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Yes, looking at porn is a grave sin which can be a mortal sin if the requirements are met.
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yes it's a mortal sin, in any case. Putting yourself in an occasion of sin, willingly, is already a sin.
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Thank you guys, you confirmed what my instincts were telling me.
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What if we watch it frequently and feel a deep attraction for it,what should we do?

Should we just pray for help?

As humans don't we all have strong desires and attraction to the opposite sex and enjoy these physical pleasures?
Well, I think you've sort of taken the first step by recognizing it, mentioning it here and discussing it. It shows that you are at least cognizant of the dangers involved with pornography and how it relates to your spiritual development. That's a positive start and one you should be commended for.

The next step would probably be to confess it, perform your penance and begin amending your life. Take the penance your parish priest gives you to heart and meditate on his advice. You'll likely find the advice he gives you to be more helpful/useful than anything you'll read here.

As for us all being human and all having strong desires for the opposite sex, you're absolutely correct. And it is a difficult human emotion to deal with, especially for the male sex. But as with all sin, we can't use our human desires as a crutch or justification for committing the sin.

At the end of the day, it's a natural human emotion to want to strangle the guy who is road raging on the freeway. It's a natural human emotion to want to earn as much money as we can and then spend that money on pleasurable riches of this world. It's natural to want to lie when we are ashamed of the truth... but that's the rub unfortunately. We are given all of these natural human emotions that force us to make the right decision even when every ounce of our being wants earthly gratification. If the path to salvation was smooth sailing, we never would have needed Christ to die for our sins.

In my personal life, I have one trick that seems to help me whenever I am starting to succumb to the sins of this earthy world. I think of the sacrifice Jesus made for me. I think of the pain and agony Jesus faced in His Passion. It's difficult to refrain from succumbing to my earthly desires, but not nearly as difficult as the pain Jesus experienced when he was dying for me. And that sort of puts things in perspective. Nothing that the Lord is asking me to do in this world can ever compare to what Jesus had to go through for me and my sins. And then I get embarrassed about even thinking about giving in to temptation. It reminds me how weak I am. It reminds me just how absurd I am being for not having the fortitude to abstain from porn, or put down the twinkie, or not flip off the guy who just cut me off in traffic.

No time is this message more clear than during the Lenten season.

Definitely pray for help with this matter. And ask those around you to pray for you as well. But remember that you are imperfect, and you are going to fall. And when you do fall, try to remember that we all do. And then confess, perform your penance and amend your life. Get back in the saddle and try again. You will find that each time you fall, it becomes easier to get back up and stay on course. Eventually, you won't fall anymore.

I'll be praying for you.
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Thank you Mike,

I do (thank God) go to confession but not sure what you mean my the penance thing,the priests just say to pray a hail Mary or an Our Father,i dont see much of the big deal with that

I do see the falls become less and less as we keep striving to keep the Commands of God and as you said its easier to get back up and keep going and keep trying to become better towards avoiding the Falls,

I believe there must be reasons or a reason why one would keep falling,ive heard that Pride comes before the fall,

In the Bible it mentions the thoughts of Lucifer when he said "I will acsend into Heaven"

I think that maybe i try to acsend to Heaven also by my own efforts without God playing or doing His part as he should by His grace,

So what would be the likely outcome? we would fall on our backside and slip into sin or a state of hell because we tries to 'become a God without God' as when Satan first tempted Man.

I will also try to remember Christs death,but i wonder ,many people have died or been crucified or put to death on Earth,what is the significance of Christs death,how does it help us that he Bled for us and died for us?

Is it the Holy Communion or Confessions that save us?

But he even gave the Holy Communion to the Apostles even while he was still alive,so what was the point of His death or Crucifixion?
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What if we watch it frequently and feel a deep attraction for it,what should we do?

Should we just pray for help?
I would pray the rosary. Even once a day will seriously help you. If you're using the computer to view it, you could try moving the computer to a public place, or only use the internet at a library.

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many people have died or been crucified or put to death on Earth,what is the significance of Christs death,how does it help us that he Bled for us and died for us?
He took our sins upon Himselft, He took our deserved punishment.
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