Why is Congress so anxious to keep Terri Schiavo alive? - Page 5

IsaacSheen · #61 Mar 21, '05, 8:43 am

Oh, and I can't help but see something funny here.

If this was an animal with a feeding tube, I can't help but wonder if this thread would have even been started. Mainly because the motives wouldn't matter, just so long as the animal was being given its "rights".

Why do animal rights people protect animals to an extreme and yet stay so quick to pull the plug on humans??

Maybe if we quit paying so much on our pets medical expenses and worrying about their needs and "rights", we'd have more time and money for our elderly and disabled.

**fix** · #62 Mar 21, '05, 8:46 am

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Don't forget striking evidence of God from everywhere. We have a collection of secular naturalists on the Democrat side - misguided by a materialistic view of life that ignores completely the moral order because it supposedly cannot be measured.

Indeed. We know the famous line. What is truth?

Brad · #63 Mar 21, '05, 8:48 am

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Originally Posted by IsaacSheen

Oh, and I can't help but see something funny here.

If this was an animal with a feeding tube, I can't help but wonder if this thread would have even been started. Mainly because the motives wouldn't matter, just so long as the animal was being given its "rights".

Why do animal rights people protect animals to an extreme and yet stay so quick to pull the plug on humans??

Exactly. On my local news broadcast on Friday, they interviewed 2 supporters of pulling the tube (none that didn't support pulling the tube) and then followed up that story with an SPCA person that said a greyhound not given any food was the worst kind of cruelty imaginable.

**fix** · #64 Mar 21, '05, 8:48 am

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So, Cherub, under your logic, if someone in her position had in writing that they would want to die, you wouldn't honor their wishes. I am right?

Since when may one impose upon another human to murder them because that is their preference?

Brad · #65 Mar 21, '05, 8:49 am

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Indeed. We know the famous line. What is truth?

How appropriate for this week.

Mac6yver · #66 Mar 21, '05, 9:01 am

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Originally Posted by StratusRose

So I'm confused here. The more important question is do you think Terri Schiavo should live or die at the behest of her husband? Also, how many 26 year olds do you know tell their loved ones they do not want to be on life support?

As a Catholic, you are expected to stand up for life.

I am 24, and I have told my wife that I do not wish to live my life on a machine. I have also told her that I do not wish to live if I am not sentient and aware. That is not life to me.

embertx · #67 Mar 21, '05, 9:05 am

"I simply am questioning the sincerity of the republicans who have a plan to win votes from conservatives. There was a memo to them explaining the little plan, and that proves that they just want votes."

Have you considered that maybe just maybe that the Lord has answered people's prayers? Many people have prayed and fasted for Terri Schiavo. God works in mysterious ways. Only the Lord knows their hearts and if they were sincere or not or the sincerity/motive of your question. It is not for me to judge only that they did the right thing. And yes there is a plan. Many God fearing people are praying for his plan.

God bless

Mac6yver · #68 Mar 21, '05, 9:06 am

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The last time I checked, this wasn't about whether she "wants to live." That is certainly not a priority or concern of mine in this case. It is about the sanctity of human life.

Right... So you are all for the government stepping in and dictating what people can do with their personal lives.... That is a very dangerous path my friend. How long do you think it will be before they step in on your religious beliefs, or your choices in raising your children. Where are all those crazy people who scream slippery slope when two men kiss, yet when something fits their personal beliefs they is a booming silence...

theTaxCollector · #69 Mar 21, '05, 9:06 am

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I am 24, and I have told my wife that I do not wish to live my life on a machine. I have also told her that I do not wish to live if I am not sentient and aware. That is not life to me.

Put it in writing...

Make you sure you specifically define what 'sentient' and 'aware' are.

Also, I am sorry that you have conditions on what 'life' is. If everyone gets to decide what 'life' is, a lot of people would be killed in the process. Sounds a lot like Hitler's Germany...

StJeanneDArc · #70 Mar 21, '05, 9:07 am

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Originally Posted by Mac6yver

I am 24, and I have told my wife that I do not wish to live my life on a machine. I have also told her that I do not wish to live if I am not sentient and aware. That is not life to me.

Good thing we don't operate according to the definition of life according to Mac6yver.

And how would you define sentient and aware?

IsaacSheen · #71 Mar 21, '05, 9:10 am

Mac6yver,

The problem is, she's not on what is considered life support. She is just receiving food and water. Is it right to not allow someone to eat and drink?

As for being aware and sentient...many people who have come out of the state she is in now say that it is like being trapped in your own body. You see everything, understand everything and cannot do anything about it. They also say that it is excrutiatingly painful when the feeding tubes are removed. If you watch EWTN "The World Over", or if you search the web, I'm sure you'll find many people who share their experience with being in the same state Terri is in.

Scott_Lafrance · #72 Mar 21, '05, 9:13 am

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Originally Posted by Mac6yver

I am 24, and I have told my wife that I do not wish to live my life on a machine. I have also told her that I do not wish to live if I am not sentient and aware. That is not life to me.

Good for you. Get it in writing before its too late.

Island Oak · #73 Mar 21, '05, 9:14 am

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But the one's who did not support it were Democrats.

and two Republicans.

Scott_Lafrance · #74 Mar 21, '05, 9:16 am

Unfortunately, the Schindlers are victims of poor planning. If they would have just insisted that their daughter was a converted Muslim terrorist with plans to blow up the US Capital building and then march on DC with an army of pro-"choice" militants, then the ACLU and NOW would have sent an army of lawyers to defend her life.

Cherub · #75 Mar 21, '05, 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by Mac6yver

Right... So you are all for the government stepping in and dictating what people can do with their personal lives.... That is a very dangerous path my friend. How long do you think it will be before they step in on your religious beliefs, or your choices in raising your children. Where are all those crazy people who scream slippery slope when two men kiss, yet when something fits their personal beliefs they is a booming silence...

I am not sure I understand your point. Are you cautioning me against showing approval when I feel my government is representing me properly? That is what government is for. Yes, I am all for government stepping in and governing the country, protecting innocent life from being ended at the whims of any individual. I fail to see what a homosexual kiss has to do with anything.